[warrenhill]

Be in the betting for .."Top woman"....


Just cause you have womens clothes on and call yourself Kellie surely doesnt make you a women?


You can put a dress on a pig but underneath its still a pig.....

[Josy]

She identifies as a woman, that's why.

[Denver]

She is undergoing transgender operations its not a go to the hospital one day and its all sorted kinda thing

[Marsh.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by warrenhill

Be in the betting for .."Top woman"....


Just cause you have womens clothes on and call yourself Kellie surely doesnt make you a women?


You can put a dress on a pig but underneath its still a pig.....

Yes but its a woman pig in a male pig body.

(maybe a pig is not a good animal analogy here..)

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Apart from hormones has Kellie had anything done yet ie breast implants?

It looks like she may have had her nose and chin done to look more womanly.

BTW op the pig analogy probably isn't the best thing to use.

[warrenhill]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes but its a woman pig in a male pig body.

(maybe a pig is not a good animal analogy here..)

Maybe not....


But until you have had penectomies then your still a bloke whatever way you want to look at it...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by warrenhill

Maybe not....


But until you have had penectomies then your still a bloke whatever way you want to look at it...

Helen got away with it mind

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by warrenhill

Maybe not....


But until you have had penectomies then your still a bloke whatever way you want to look at it...

I'd be very careful as to not offend the Transgender community. Kellie identifies as a woman, therefore she is a woman. Simple as that. The smug face on the end of your post says it all really.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by warrenhill

Be in the betting for .."Top woman"....


Just cause you have womens clothes on and call yourself Kellie surely doesnt make you a women?


You can put a dress on a pig but underneath its still a pig.....

Um, maybe because she's a woman? Mess.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Um, maybe because she's a woman? Mess.

Exactly. If gender identity isn't enough for you OP, she has also had a sex change.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Josy

She identifies as a woman, that's why.

Has he/she still got her/his bits?

[Jack_]

She identities as a woman, you use female pronouns. It's as simple as calling someone a name they wish to be known as.

Anyone that can't do this is either slow on the uptake or it says a lot about them as a person. That's all there is to it.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Has he/she still got her/his bits?

she now has the female reproductive parts as far as I am aware.

[warrenhill]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Exactly. If gender identity isn't enough for you OP, she has also had a sex change.

No he hasnt.....

Hes poped a few pills and put a dress on .....

Just because you say you want to be a "women" doesnt mean to say you can be.

Maybe next time im getting car insurance i should say im a women and go to one of those companies that give big discounts for lady drivers (god knows why..)

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Has he/she still got her/his bits?

What business is that of yours, mine or anyone else's?

She wishes to be known as a woman, so you call her a woman. Why is this so hard for some people to understand? Oh I forget - it's not, some people just want to show themselves up.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

she now has the female reproductive parts as far as I am aware.

Oh right,thankyou Josh,I wasn't sure tbh.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

she now has the female reproductive parts as far as I am aware.

No she doesn't she is pre op.

I think that's a few years down the line yet don't transsexuals have to live as a woman for atleast 3/5 years to make sure they are making the right choice before the surgery will be performed?

Its only been 14 months since he started living as a woman I believe.

[Locke.]

If they have a dick it's a man, if they don't they're not. And apparently they do, so..

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

No she doesn't she is post op.

*pre op.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Jack_

What business is that of yours, mine or anyone else's?

She wishes to be known as a woman, so you call her a woman. Why is this so hard for some people to understand? Oh I forget - it's not, some people just want to show themselves up.

Bloody hell Jack calm down ,you'll be having a heart attack before your 20,I asked a question and it was answered so no need for you to get on your high horse,people are bound to be curious,lots of questions have been asked about various housemates,chill..

[warrenhill]

May i just add...

I have nothing against Kellie or the transsexual community....

It was just a comment as to why kellie can be classified as a women for betting purposes.

[Rob!]

This thread

I love it when transgendered people go in the house - there's still so much ignorance and discrimination that goes on about it - every single time someone goes in who's transgendered, we learn more. They have stories to tell that other people don't have - how they adjust back to a new lifestyle, how they come to terms with their own issues and what they do to fight back. Delighted she's in there - especially with it all being so recent. Kellie is just getting to know herself again and frankly I couldn't be happier that we get to watch her develop.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

*pre op.

Oops my mistake.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Originally Posted by RobInnes

This thread

I love it when transgendered people go in the house - there's still so much ignorance and discrimination that goes on about it - every single time someone goes in who's transgendered, we learn more. They have stories to tell that other people don't have - how they adjust back to a new lifestyle, how they come to terms with their own issues and what they do to fight back. Delighted she's in there - especially with it all being so recent. Kellie is just getting to know herself again and frankly I couldn't be happier that we get to watch her develop.

Is that supposed to be a pun lol.