[booboomartin]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I don't even know how to reply to this. I'm just judging her on what's happened in the house. Where has this information even come from? And how does any of it go against the fact that she is good at handling people's issues? Do you think she has been good at this from what we've seen in the house? Maybe Dee is just a bit of a walking contradiction; shows compassion in some areas of life and not in others?

Also, in one sentence you call her a scrounger and lazy, presumably because she was on benefits, and in the next you say she's stolen from her employers? Don't get it.

I was answering someone who thought that she would make a good social worker. dee is very good at handling peoples issues, this is probably how she got the job with Birmingham city council, trusted enough to have access to vulnerable persons money, money they had put there for safe keeping. I would not call a person a scrounger or lazy because they were on benefits. dee's reason for being unable to work was, because she had depression? dhe is the happiest, depressed person I have ever seen. her 'depression' did not stop her going away on her recent holidays, courtesy of whoever. also if you are a truly compassionate person, you would not steal from people who could not take care of their own finances. so again in the same sentence dee is a convicted criminal (thief), lazy, and a scrounger.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by booboomartin

I was answering someone who thought that she would make a good social worker. dee is very good at handling peoples issues, this is probably how she got the job with Birmingham city council, trusted enough to have access to vulnerable persons money, money they had put there for safe keeping. I would not call a person a scrounger or lazy because they were on benefits. dee's reason for being unable to work was, because she had depression? dhe is the happiest, depressed person I have ever seen. her 'depression' did not stop her going away on her recent holidays, courtesy of whoever. also if you are a truly compassionate person, you would not steal from people who could not take care of their own finances. so again in the same sentence dee is a convicted criminal (thief), lazy, and a scrounger.

I really don't know anything about this theft allegation so I'm not gonna argue with that. Based on her behaviour towards others in the house, I think she's (usually) fair and compassionate, a good listener, assertive when necessary, all qualities I'd associate with a good social worker. If she has stolen from vulnerable people then yes you're right, that is certainly not an example of compassion. But as I said, I try to base my opinions on behaviour in the house. I understand that some people also take pre-BB behaviour into account which you clearly do, so fair enough.

But I must say, "she's the happiest depressed person I've ever seen" is extremely insulting and the exact attitude that attaches a stigma to those with mental health issues. People with depression will often put a "happy face" on to disguise the condition in public. The disorder comes with a whole load of different symptoms aside from "not smiling" which you couldn't possibly know about. Unless you are a doctor or Clinical Psychologist, you do not have the credentials to claim that Dee has faked her depression just because she "seems happy enough".

[booboomartin]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I really don't know anything about this theft allegation so I'm not gonna argue with that. Based on her behaviour towards others in the house, I think she's (usually) fair and compassionate, a good listener, assertive when necessary, all qualities I'd associate with a good social worker. If she has stolen from vulnerable people then yes you're right, that is certainly not an example of compassion. But as I said, I try to base my opinions on behaviour in the house. I understand that some people also take pre-BB behaviour into account which you clearly do, so fair enough.

But I must say, "she's the happiest depressed person I've ever seen" is extremely insulting and the exact attitude that attaches a stigma to those with mental health issues. People with depression will often put a "happy face" on to disguise the condition in public. The disorder comes with a whole load of different symptoms aside from "not smiling" which you couldn't possibly know about. Unless you are a doctor or Clinical Psychologist, you do not have the credentials to claim that Dee has faked her depression just because she "seems happy enough".

when I stated that dee was the happiest, depressed person I had ever seen, I can assure you this was said by someone with first hand experience of mental health illness, myself. having battled depression, I am not that naïve to think that everyone with depression goes around 'not smiling', I was saying from my own experience that for the most part, I was 'very down' for the majority of the time. I am also aware that each persons depression is different. perhaps dee has a depression that only shows when, someone suggests she gets a job.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by booboomartin

when I stated that dee was the happiest, depressed person I had ever seen, I can assure you this was said by someone with first hand experience of mental health illness, myself. having battled depression, I am not that naïve to think that everyone with depression goes around 'not smiling', I was saying from my own experience that for the most part, I was 'very down' for the majority of the time. I am also aware that each persons depression is different. perhaps dee has a depression that only shows when, someone suggests she gets a job.

Well you said it yourself. Your own experiences are not indicative of somebody else's.

[booboomartin]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Well you said it yourself. Your own experiences are not indicative of somebody else's.

that's very true. when you have depression you are told that you have to 'help yourself'. dee appears to have taken that advice verbatim when she 'helped herself' to £13,000 of her employers money. a convicted thief, lazy, and a scrounger, so glad that my own experiences are nothing like hers.