[Patricia4]

If I heard my name mentioned when two people were talking I would of interrupted too to find out what was being said.
James love's his own voice and love's to make people look small he's a big tw*t.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

If I heard my name mentioned when two people were talking I would of interrupted too to find out what was being said.
James love's his own voice and love's to make people look small he's a big tw*t.

Poor Ola.

[Tip]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

If I heard my name mentioned when two people were talking I would of interrupted too to find out what was being said.
James love's his own voice and love's to make people look small he's a big tw*t.

If I didn't hear the rest of what was being said, I probably would too. However, there's ways and means of doing that, and Gary shouting "Hey Hey Hey" (if that is what he did) is something people have told him over and over that they find annoying.

Housemates, rightly or wrongly, don't tend to put Gary's lack of social finesse down to brain damage or disability.

James has a short fuse and loses it - and as is often the case when tempers are lost, goes over the top. If Gary was capable of approaching this differently then I think James quite probably wouldn't lose it in quite this way. As it is, it appears both of them lack something here.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by Tip

If I didn't hear the rest of what was being said, I probably would too. However, there's ways and means of doing that, and Gary shouting "Hey Hey Hey" (if that is what he did) is something people have told him over and over that they find annoying.

Housemates, rightly or wrongly, don't tend to put Gary's lack of social finesse down to brain damage or disability.

James has a short fuse and loses it - and as is often the case when tempers are lost, goes over the top. If Gary was capable of approaching this differently then I think James quite probably wouldn't lose it in quite this way. As it is, it appears both of them lack something here.

You could tell a person with a brain injury ten million times. It would make no difference. Just too ignorant of this.

It can frustrate though, granted.

[Tip]

Originally Posted by abhorson

You could tell a person with a brain injury ten million times. It would make no difference. Just too ignorant of this.

It can frustrate though, granted.

It could well be that Gary's brain injury is the reason but we don't actually know that.

I've looked after people with brain injuries too, and they all had pretty unique behavioural problems.

If it was definitively the case that it was brain injury causing Gary to behave in certain ways, then BB would be doing everyone a favour if they made that known.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Tip

It could well be that Gary's brain injury is the reason but we don't actually know that.

I've looked after people with brain injuries too, and they all had pretty unique behavioural problems.

If it was definitively the case that it was brain injury causing Gary to behave in certain ways, then BB would be doing everyone a favour if they made that known.

I agree. I think it would be essential that they make that known. Imagine the HM's coming out and finding it was the brain injury making him behave like that and they didn't know. I imagine they would be furious that they weren't told and just thought he was a rude and aggravating old so - and - so who was riling them up on purpose and they looked really bad for not understanding...

So maybe his brain injury doesn't affect him in those ways as they HM's are tested before going in there. I wish we knew one way or the other as it could change our perceptions, and the HM's too of course.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by jet

I agree. I think it would be essential that they make that known. Imagine the HM's coming out and finding it was the brain injury making him behave like that and they didn't know. I imagine they would be furious that they weren't told and just thought he was a rude and aggravating old so - and - so who was riling them up on purpose and they looked really bad for not understanding...

So maybe his brain injury doesn't affect him in those ways as they HM's are tested before going in there. I wish we knew one way or the other as it could change our perceptions, and the HM's too of course.

Me too, whenever I perceive Gary's behaviour to be rude/difficult I can't help but wonder if it's due to his brain injury so I shouldn't be so quick to judge.

Maybe you've seen this before but I'll say it anyway just incase. I know it's only wikipedia so not a great source, but it says that a doctor claimed Gary's mental filters were affected by his injury and was prescribed drugs to reduce that. It claims the source is from Celeb Rehab but I've never seen the show so couldn't say if it was really shown on there, or if the show is "real". If true, sounds like Gary's impulsivity (interrupting conversations etc.) could be a symptom of his injury. And if that is true, I feel really bad for Gary when housemates shout at him/nom him for interrupting.. He probably doesn't quite get what the problem is.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Me too, whenever I perceive Gary's behaviour to be rude/difficult I can't help but wonder if it's due to his brain injury so I shouldn't be so quick to judge.

Maybe you've seen this before but I'll say it anyway just incase. I know it's only wikipedia so not a great source, but it says that a doctor claimed Gary's mental filters were affected by his injury and was prescribed drugs to reduce that. It claims the source is from Celeb Rehab but I've never seen the show so couldn't say if it was really shown on there, or if the show is "real". If true, sounds like Gary's impulsivity (interrupting conversations etc.) could be a symptom of his injury. And if that is true, I feel really bad for Gary when housemates shout at him/nom him for interrupting.. He probably doesn't quite get what the problem is.

Which is why the HM's should be told if that is the case, otherwise it is just cruel to Gary and unfair on them not to be aware of that.
I didn't see Celeb rehab either, though I've heard about him on it, so I can't say.

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by Tip

If I didn't hear the rest of what was being said, I probably would too. However, there's ways and means of doing that, and Gary shouting "Hey Hey Hey" (if that is what he did) is something people have told him over and over that they find annoying.

Housemates, rightly or wrongly, don't tend to put Gary's lack of social finesse down to brain damage or disability.

James has a short fuse and loses it - and as is often the case when tempers are lost, goes over the top. If Gary was capable of approaching this differently then I think James quite probably wouldn't lose it in quite this way. As it is, it appears both of them lack something here.

Yep really well said! It's hard to judge, since we're not sure if Gary just interrupted or rudely interrupted (I do believe there is a difference), but it seems they both lack a regard for others in some ways. I think the reason that Gary is perceived better than James (in general) is because he doesn't become condescending, nasty, offensive, loud or bad-tempered, and he doesn't walk away afterwards and talk about people behind their backs. Further, Gary shows more willing to change than James from what we've seen so far. There is also the whole brain damage thing which does seem to play a role in Gary's behaviour.