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Originally Posted by NT30

Tehe , he wasn't wheeled into a care home. He was offered a 'role' for money to go to BB in the UK. He would have been briefed by his agent and he will have watched previous shows, he is no victim. Anyway this isn't the GBBC appreciation thread

There's only one person throwing the victim card around, do you have a mirror to hand, look no further.


As for your comments re: OAP's home, that reveals a lot about your outlook on the older generation and you as a person in general.

He has said on numerous occasions that he isn't a victim and would never be allowed himself to be, he's got on with it and if you can't take the mountain to Muhammed ..... he's found a way to flourish without his fellow housemates, to hell with 'em he must have thought.

I think most viewers would like to think what happens in the house is or would be a reflection in wider society outside and most are appalled at the way the vast majority of the wannabees have treated Mr Busey. You just DON'T treat a guest in your country and one of 3 score years plus 10 the way they have done.

Jordan ( Bully Elliot) was down right hostile towards him and that set the tone for the rest. The sniggering and back biting began. For a 36 year old man to have to be hauled into the diary room and to be told , in front of the nation that his behavior was reprehensible and that it had to stop and you have temerity to come on here and claim for some reason that it was Mr Busey that was being awkward and lost the support of his fellow housemates, get real.

With regards to the Ubiquitous support Mr Busey has garnered it here's it's there it's every blooming where. You just cannot stop it popping up all over the place.


One Gary Busey, there's only one Gary Busey

[NT30]

Originally Posted by delta

There's only one person throwing the victim card around, do you have a mirror to hand, look no further.


As for your comments re: OAP's home, that reveals a lot about your outlook on the older generation and you as a person in general.

He has said on numerous occasions that he isn't a victim and would never be allowed himself to be, he's got on with it and if you can't take the mountain to Muhammed ..... he's found a way to flourish without his fellow housemates, to hell with 'em he must have thought.

I think most viewers would like to think what happens in the house is or would be a reflection in wider society outside and most are appalled at the way the vast majority of the wannabees have treated Mr Busey. You just DON'T treat a guest in your country and one of 3 score years plus 10 the way they have done.

Jordan ( Bully Elliot) was down right hostile towards him and that set the tone for the rest. The sniggering and back biting began. For a 36 year old man to have to be hauled into the diary room and to be told , in front of the nation that his behavior was reprehensible and that it had to stop and you have temerity to come on here and claim for some reason that it was Mr Busey that was being awkward and lost the support of his fellow housemates, get real.

With regards to the Ubiquitous support Mr Busey has garnered it here's it's there it's every blooming where. You just cannot stop it popping up all over the place.


One Gary Busey, there's only one Gary Busey

No facts in your statement, just insults and assumptions. It's a game show, it's a choice, no one is all right and no one is all wrong. My opinion is mine and yours is yours. By insulting people you try and place yourself on a pedestal. The show is a mish mash of old and new, clever and not so clever. Gary is a contestant like the others and some people see one thing and others see other things. My preference is for James, and I am entitled to it.

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Originally Posted by NT30

No facts in your statement, just insults and assumptions. It's a game show, it's a choice, no one is all right and no one is all wrong. My opinion is mine and yours is yours. By insulting people you try and place yourself on a pedestal. The show is a mish mash of old and new, clever and not so clever. Gary is a contestant like the others and some people see one thing and others see other things. My preference is for James, and I am entitled to it.

No facts in my post?


So you are now stating James Jordan wasn't hauled in and embarrassed in front of the British public?

This is a game, it's a game of life. You cannot fake it for more than a couple of days in there. For you to think it's a game as if it were 'It's a knock out' demonstrates how you misunderstand what the program is all about.

The only real game player is BB the others can try and do the odd thing to try and influence an outcome,but like I have said before you are dealing with pure randomness. Quantum Maths, you just cannot play any kind of a game in there, it's impossible. Even when you do for a while, BB shows a video of you back stabbing another house mate.

What you get is a picture of how these people operate in the outside world but in a confined space, where they don't have the option to walk away. They have to face their problems head on. What you are seeing from Bully Elliot is just that a Bully, one who revels in bringing down others, belittling them as I have posted elsewhere a relational bully!

I don't have a problem with anyone supporting him, hard to understand. What I do have a problem with is people bending the truth or just purely repeating events that didn't happen or putting their own twist on them to suit their own agenda.

I haven't been rude to you and you are clearly used to getting your own way and not being questioned or used to having a debate with someone that can debate. I notice you were dominating the thread in perhaps they way you think I am dominating the thread now. To get my point across. In short you have met your match and you clearly don't like it.

I take great offence to being called a bully when in reality I am reacting to ( imho) the nonsense you have written. So on that part it's you are doing the name calling and from where I was stood it was you were doing the bullying and dominating on the latter part of this thread.

I have posted several long replies and articulate,accurate and to the point only to have you retort with " Oh dear, I am victim" line.

As for the format, it doesn't matter it reverts to one of - real life- encapsulated inside 4 walls with nowhere to escape to. The contestants are like peeled onions, slowly but surely they all reveal their true selves.

[NT30]

Originally Posted by delta

No facts in my post?


So you are now stating James Jordan wasn't hauled in and embarrassed in front of the British public?

This is a game, it's a game of life. You cannot fake it for more than a couple of days in there. For you to think it's a game as if it were 'It's a knock out' demonstrates how you misunderstand what the program is all about.

The only real game player is BB the others can try and do the odd thing to try and influence an outcome,but like I have said before you are dealing with pure randomness. Quantum Maths, you just cannot play any kind of a game in there, it's impossible. Even when you do for a while, BB shows a video of you back stabbing another house mate.

What you get is a picture of how these people operate in the outside world but in a confined space, where they don't have the option to walk away. They have to face their problems head on. What you are seeing from Bully Elliot is just that a Bully, one who revels in bringing down others, belittling them as I have posted elsewhere a relational bully!

I don't have a problem with anyone supporting him, hard to understand. What I do have a problem with is people bending the truth or just purely repeating events that didn't happen or putting their own twist on them to suit their own agenda.

I haven't been rude to you and you are clearly used to getting your own way and not being questioned or used to having a debate with someone that can debate. I notice you were dominating the thread in perhaps they way you think I am dominating the thread now. To get my point across. In short you have met your match and you clearly don't like it.

I take great offence to being called a bully when in reality I am reacting to ( imho) the nonsense you have written. So on that part it's you are doing the name calling and from where I was stood it was you were doing the bullying and dominating on the latter part of this thread.

I have posted several long replies and articulate,accurate and to the point only to have you retort with " Oh dear, I am victim" line.

As for the format, it doesn't matter it reverts to one of - real life- encapsulated inside 4 walls with nowhere to escape to. The contestants are like peeled onions, surely but surely they all reveal their true selves.

Shhhhh..... You have made your point you won

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Originally Posted by NT30

Shhhhh..... You have made your point you won

Nothing to do with winning or losing.

As Mr Busey stated there is no winners in an argument and I agree. If the vast majority of people thought the way Mr Jordan had depicted himself in the house was okay then that would be the norm. As it happens they don't and that is the only thing that separates what we may deem right or wrong. I think you will find it's called morals.

But if you take the debate to it's ultimate cocnlusion do any of us really exist, are we just a video game that some great maker is orchestrating from way beyond the heavens? I don't know.