[arista]

Starts tonight

http://www.conservativepartyconferen.../confhome.aspx

[20 per cent off your first home: Tories offer
first-time buyers under 40 special discount
David Cameron will unveil dramatic extension
to party's Help to Buy scheme
'Starter homes' will be available at 20 per cent less
than their market value
First-time buyers under the age of 40
will be offered discount on new homes
Discount possible because housebuilders
would be exempt from some taxes ]


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3EWmM8rUq



Young First time buyers
to get discounts


Former MP M.Reckless
picked a good day to back stab

The PM is due to give his speech on the final day 11:30PM on Weds 1st Oct

[JoshBB]

If they're going to up the price of taxes and privatise the NHS, they aren't helping by providing a 20% off which comes out of public money. They'll get that by making more cuts to the public sector.

Not convinced that this will benefit the working class.

[arista]

Well more to come over the next few days

[joeysteele]

I expected to hear something as to housing after Ed Miliband started the ball rolling last week, however this is nowhere near enough and is in reality,although welcome, a case of too little too late I would say.

As for the other MP defecting to UKIP, I have nothing but contempt for MP's who switch parties and this close to an election is farcical.
At this rate voters will be sick of hearing of by elections and therefore elections by the time the 2015 one comes along.

I am not now Conservative but Conservative funds, workers and time and effort helped get this MP elected he should at the very least along with the pathetic Carswell, have waited until the 2015 election.
For me it is a major betrayal and would demonstrate to me that neither of these MPs were people to trust again.

[arista]

"a case of too little too late I would say."

Sure for some,
I am sure other offers will come in the next few days.

Nothing wrong with you jumping Ship
Joey its a free Nation.

I am still
Conservative-LibDem
as I was many years ago.


I am honest

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"a case of too little too late I would say."

Sure for some,
I am sure other offers will come in the next few days.

Nothing wrong with you jumping Ship
Joey its a free Nation.

I am still
Conservative-LibDem
as I was many years ago.


I am honest

Well so am I honest arista, honesty doesn't come into it really.

In fact, I am not jumping ship as I have as yet only voted in one General Election,that was 2010 and for my sins voted Lib Dem so in fact haven't yet voted for the Conservatives in a General election.

It is however my roots as to background and family too but I have seen too much wrong,in my view,that they have done to trust the Conservatives.
As for the Lib Dems, I wouldn't even waste my time listenting to them while Clegg is their leader,or in fact any of their current frontbench MPs.

I do admire and respect your loyalty to them however.

[Kizzy]

Aw look at them offering the strivers sweetners... nobody would be foolish enough would they? Even their MPs are like rats deserting the sinking tory ship.

[user104658]

The 20% is off of newbuild houses which, realistically, the vast majority of first time buyers can't afford anyway. Typical Tory policy. 20% off your Ł300,000 house buy for your first home! What do you mean your bank will only lend Ł120,000? Oh well, just borrow the rest from mummy and daddy eh pip pip?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well so am I honest arista, honesty doesn't come into it really.

In fact, I am not jumping ship as I have as yet only voted in one General Election,that was 2010 and for my sins voted Lib Dem so in fact haven't yet voted for the Conservatives in a General election.

It is however my roots as to background and family too but I have seen too much wrong,in my view,that they have done to trust the Conservatives.
As for the Lib Dems, I wouldn't even waste my time listenting to them while Clegg is their leader,or in fact any of their current frontbench MPs.

I do admire and respect your loyalty to them however.

that's the most diplomatic way of putting it joey.

[arista]

[joeysteele]

It also then doesn't look like it will be the week he hoped for as to the conference too.

It will be interesting to see if the media harp on about this all week when interviewing Conservative delegates,rather than report any substance from the conference in the way they looked for side issues during Labours too rather than discuss the content of policy in the main.

[Kizzy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29398907

More cuts, this time for the under 21s... lucky them.

[Marc]

Can I please have half off?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29398907

More cuts, this time for the under 21s... lucky them.

A sign of more discriminatory,(loosely used as a description), policies to come then.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It also then doesn't look like it will be the week he hoped for as to the conference too.

It will be interesting to see if the media harp on about this all week when interviewing Conservative delegates,rather than report any substance from the conference in the way they looked for side issues during Labours too rather than discuss the content of policy in the main.

PM Cameron was on BBC1 Marr
he is holding up strong.

The Telegraph Front page
is a beauty

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

PM Cameron was on BBC1 Marr
he is holding up strong.

The Telegraph Front page
is a beauty

What a weak interview, it came across as an old pals act to me.

He really didn't press David Cameron as to anything really,in the end it was just like a Party political broadcast in the main.

I am more confused than ever as to David Cameron's position as to Europe after that interview too as I am sure a great many others will be too.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Marc

Can I please have half off?

No but if you just hang fire for 5 mins while i and the rest of the Country that are property owners add 20% to the price of our homes we will get right back to you.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What a weak interview, it came across as an old pals act to me.

He really didn't press David Cameron as to anything really,in the end it was just like a Party political broadcast in the main.

I am more confused than ever as to David Cameron's position as to Europe after that interview too as I am sure a great many others will be too.

yes Marr
they are mates,



Poxy BBC


Is not as Good as John Snow
of Ch4HDNews

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29398907

More cuts, this time for the under 21s... lucky them.

I think this is a ridiculous policy, it assumes that those under 21 can simply rely on their parents for support when the sad truth is that there are many who can't.

At the very least, it should be means-tested against parental income in the same way that University loans are.

[arista]

[Osborne: 'Raise The Ambition Of The Nation'
The Chancellor says it is wrong benefits have risen faster than wages and out-of-work families had more money than those in work.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1344122/os...-of-the-nation


Jolly Good

[joeysteele]

The Chancellor looked a tired figure in his speech, nothing particularly new, more of the same overall.
I would guess were he to remain Chancellor after 2015,which I think and hope he will not be, we will see repeated failure after failure again as to financial targets and projections.

Also since the deficit is stuck now with nothing further coming off it for near the last 2 years by this Govt. he showed nothing really to offer after all his failures since 2010.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

[Osborne: 'Raise The Ambition Of The Nation'
The Chancellor says it is wrong benefits have risen faster than wages and out-of-work families had more money than those in work.]


http://news.sky.com/story/1344122/os...-of-the-nation


Jolly Good

It is -impossible- for an out of work family to be on more money than a family in work if their circumstances are otherwise the same (same area, same number or children, same status regarding disability). It is an outright lie to suggest otherwise.

[Livia]

I'm waiting for some party to say, we'll pay you benefits for three years. If you haven't found a job after that, we'll find you one. I'd vote for them.

[joeysteele]

For me,this is like a going back in a time machine to almost 3 years ago as to the announcements today.

More 'punishing' for want of a better word as to those on benefits,what Ian Duncan Smith still fails to listen to and grasp is that in fact his reforms have caused absolute disaster for people who are not only on benefits as to being out of work, also too those who are sick, disabled and even incurably and terminally ill.

It is like listening to all they were saying 3 years ago and now they want the same time to do the same again as to hitting those who are the most vulnerable.

The daft pre paid benefit card,sounds fair enough in principle but there will always be people who will hand over cash for to cover shopping with the card, which will them allow the claimant to get other things.
They will not of course be giving the full amount that will be on the card so it will just not work the way it would be intended to.
It will likely make things worse as to addicts than do anyhting to help the situation.

Creating a 2nd class citizenship is not the way any Govt. should be going forward with now.
Freezing benefit rises again, I tell you, if I was a Conservative voter with doubts, after what I have heard today I would for sure be off.
I am sick of the weakest and most vulnerable being used as scapegoats for bad Govt. policies of all parties, including Margaret Thatcher's too.

What a bunch of smug and heartless cowards, nothing to really tackle those who really caused the problems we have today in the UK, a token gesture as to tax avoidance but little detail as to that, so I expect nothing will be really done there.

I honestly don't know how these arrogant cruel individuals sleep at night.

Benefit and welfare reform needed to and still needs to be done,not this way, not for me.
Dealing with the most vulnerable requires understanding and compassion,2 words I doubt this lot even know the meaning of.

For crying out loud and I nearly voted for this shower in 2010.

[arista]

Boris is live on BBC2HD and SkyNewsHD now