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Hi, i'm mazz i have a friend currently writing a book on Marilyn's life, they have done lots of extensive research on these murder theories
First of all let's look at the facts. 25 Nembutal and at least 8 chloral hydrate in Marilyn's system the time of her death. How did it get there? Well, there was no injection....and the enema theory is about ridiculous and has next to no evidence....Marilyn took them herself. Accidentally? You don't take 33 pills accidentally. Maybe she misjudged? Again, you don't take 33 pills and hope to live. Let me clarify some thing: "No “yellow trail” caused by the melting of the caps of Nembutal, which usually leave a trail (though Noguchi claimed it was usual in ODs experienced by drug abusers)" Nembutal's do not leave a yellow 'trail' behind....the dye in the capsules does not behave in this way. No crystals were found in her stomach and duodenum (though Noguchi claimed it was usual in ODs experiences by drug abusers, charts have always proven the contrary) I do not know what 'charts' these would be but it is absolutely possible for drugs to pass through an empty stomach of a habitual user without a trace....the strong stomach acid would dissolve a handful of pills in UNDER 10 MINUTES....within 30-45 minutes there would be no trace left, especially in a person highly used to receiving the medication. Because of the amount of drugs found in her blood, she should have passed out before all the drugs had been processed by her organs : there is NO way the stomach could be empty: The stomach acid was more than capable to dissolve all the pills in under 10 minutes, while Marilyn was still awake....even in a coma the body would continue to move the drugs from the stomach into the intestines. It would not take a long time for the drugs to pass on....we are talking less than an hour. In ALL reported and studied cases of ODs similar to Marilyn’s case (same blood and liver levels), there are ALWAYS contents in the stomach. Why would things be different in Marilyn’s case? It all depends on the severity of the drugproblem, weather the people had eaten before or not....the fact that Marilyn's stomach was found empty only points toward the sad fact that she had a huge drug problem acquired over many years. According to the pharmacist’s invoice from Monroe's estate, Marilyn didn't have more than 25 Nembutal capsules at hand that last week so the prescription was filled again on Aug. 3rd). Her last prescription having been filled in June, it is hardly believable that as a drug addict she would have kept some of the capsules from that June prescription somewhere. She had used all of them by then. According to the bloodcount there were about 25 Nembutal (and some chloral hydrate) in her blood...the prescription filled from the day before. The pills filled on aug. 3rd show up in her bloodstream the next day, all of them! Again let's look at the FACTS Marilyn was in trouble and looking at her last months before her death (and her actions), one can see that. Some say that she had everything to live for, re-hired by the studio (for a movie that was god awful and she knew it she had to repeat the same dumb blonde sex image all over again)...and then what? She must have felt that her only security and power, that as a sexy moviestar, was slipping away...the only thing that gathered her attention and love was going to be over....with it the adoration of the masses.....nothing but loneliness ahead.Maybe somebody else like Kathreen Hepburn or Greta Garbo were stronger and didn't care and went on about their Lives.....but Marilyn had no family...no husband and children even......couldn't do anything else besides being a sexy moviestar....she still wasn't receiving the respect she wanted and now they were all talking about "poor Marilyn"...her mental state of mind, her firing, her drugabuse, her failed marriages.Maybe Marilyn just felt like a failure and didn't have the mental strength to pull out of that.... Before people believe the murder theories ''lets take a look at Marilyn's life in the last year and a half'' Early 1961: checked into a hospital for her drugabuse, depression and possible suicidal behavior.Spring 1961: released to Joe DiMaggio but Marilyn ditches him to hang with hard partying Sinatra crowd. summer 1961: Gallbladder removal, blamed on her heavy barbiturate consumption. Marilyn looks heavy and bloated. Late summer 1961: Marilyn returns to her old stomping ground. Los Angeles. Moves into her old apartment with minimal furnishings. (it looked more like a bare hotel room than an apartment of a movie-star). Late 1961: DETOX under 24-hour nursing supervision through Dr. Greenson. Marilyn looses a lot of weight. Early 1962: Marilyn moved into a small house in Brentwood by herself. She appears intoxicated at a highly public event (GOLDEN GLOBES) Spring 1962: Marilyn shows for work on her last movie over a week late.....she misses more days than she works. She does a nude scene for the film. (a sharp departure from wanting to be a 'serous actress' during her New York years). She claims to be to sick to work yet takes a strenuous trip to new York and back to L.A. in 2 days to appear drunk one again at the Kennedy Gala, further exhausting her. (No doubt in desperation to contact the Kennedy's. Summer 1962: the day after Marilyn's 36th birthday. The Greenson children speak of a depressed Marilyn, high on drugs, complaining about her age and loneliness, all she does is stay in bed all day feeling miserable. Summer 1962 Marilyn is officially fired from "something's got to give" and falls into an even deeper depression. Dr. Greenson has to cut short a overseas trip to tend to a drugged out Monroe at her house. Marilyn apparently had also suffered facial injuries, possibly due to a fall while intoxicated. Rumours that Dr Greenson beat Marilyn are unfounded and quite ridiculous and would have gotten Greenson in a heap of trouble through Newcomb or DiMaggio, still a presence in Monroe's Life). People are afraid to leave her alone now Susan Strasberg says this and the fact that Pat newcomb was over there 24-7 attests to this...also, the hiring of Mrs. Murray and Greenson and Engelberg's frequent housecalls... Mid summer 1962: Marilyn starts up a desperate campaign to keep her in the public eye with semi-nude photo sessions where she appears a bit haggard,intoxicated...though she still looks attractive you can still see a glint of unhappiness in her eyes? July 1962: Marilyn is rumored to have been highly intoxicated to the point of embarrassment at the Cal neva with the Lawfords and Frank Sinatra, again Marilyn is seen looking depressed as the day goes on and there are a few photo's of that day confirming this? And that was the sad reality of Marilyn's life... just before she had died!! These murder theories just don't hold up with any real evidence and the recent channel 5 documentary on Marilyn suggests the injection murder theory, but there was no fresh injection tracks seen on her body in the autopsy report, which you would had to be as blind as Bat if you had completely missed those marks??? |
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