[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Good job.Now they need to be locked up in Guantanamo and have their bollocks tazered daily.

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

They've already cut western prisoners heads off,Does'nt get much worse

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

They've already cut western prisoners heads off,Does'nt get much worse

How can we even pretend to be any better if we torture enemies as retaliation? Torture doesn't justify torture. It's just repeating the cycle over and over again, Plus there's the whole issue of tortured prisoners becoming martyrs for their cause.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

How can we even pretend to be any better if we torture enemies as retaliation? Torture doesn't justify torture. It's just repeating the cycle over and over again, Plus there's the whole issue of tortured prisoners becoming martyrs for their cause.

I'm not proposing or condoning torturing any legitimate prisoner of war, but let's not confuse the issue here; covert terrorists living in the UK are not soldiers and can never be rationally classified as 'prisoners of war' when they are detected and arrested by our security forces or police - they are evil, cowardly, murdering scumbags.

What's more - and I make no apologies here - once it has been ascertained by our intelligence services that they are irrefutably terrorists, then if those terrorists have information of impending bombings or other outrages against the UK, then I personally don't give a flying FK how that information is 'extracted' from the evil bastards if it is going to save lives.

I don't understand some people's disgust and objections. I have watched many documentaries on the Crime Channel and noted how so many convicted 'civilian' murderers contemptuously refuse to tell the victims grieving families just where the victims bodies are, so that they can be retrieved and given a proper burial. This includes a huge number of child victims, and there is just no way that these cruel bastards should be living out their lives in a cushy prison 'untroubled'. I'd personally let Ving Rhames into their cell with a pair of pliers one quiet night, so he can "Get medieval on their asses" until they told exactly what they done with these victims.

It's no different with terrorists'.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

No comparison at all. Civilian 'Western Prisoners' have nothing to do with any 'war' and should not be touched, and Military 'Western Prisoners' are Prisoners of War' - being readily identified 'Western Soldiers' dressed in the relevant battle fatigues or uniform and located in a legitimate 'theater of war - not being dressed in 'civilian clothing' and purporting to be ordinary civilians ensconced in comfy little 'free gratis' houses in the UK, whilst availing themselves of every benefit available in this great democracy, whilst plotting to murder and commit terrorist bombings and murder against the very citizens whose taxes and softness allow the bastards to be here in the first place.

Further; 'Prisoners of War' should be treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention - not tortured and beheaded by bestial masked cowards.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

We do not Hack their heads off
and post onto the internet


Isis are more evil than we are

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by arista

We do not Hack their heads off.


Isis are more evil than we are

Well said Arista.

[arista]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Well said Arista.

Thanks Kirk

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

They've already cut western prisoners heads off,Does'nt get much worse

Yeah, and whose fault is that? If we stopped invading their countries maybe they would back off a bit.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

And then we will scream and wonder Why Isis does the same to western prisoners..

Exactly. Torture is wrong and if we advocate it towards members of ISIS then we cannot complain when they do the same back to people on our side.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Yeah, and whose fault is that? If we stopped invading their countries maybe they would back off a bit.

Exactly. Torture is wrong and if we advocate it towards members of ISIS then we cannot complain when they do the same back to people on our side.

Your first comment... they would have no intention of backing off. It's not just the west they're against. They kill anyone who doesn't agree with their doctrine, including other Muslims. You seem under the impression they're freedom fighters of some kind, but they're not.

Your second comment, they have taken people who are working for humanitarian purposes, helping people, giving them aid... and ISIL have slaughtered them. I think we can complain, quite loudly, when they do this.

ISIL have no regard for human life. They slaughter in the most barbaric ways, they use rape as a weapon of war, they are indiscriminate in their cruelty. Once they are captured and their guilt proven, I have no problem with them being executed to stop them infesting the world.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia

Your first comment... they would have no intention of backing off. It's not just the west they're against. They kill anyone who doesn't agree with their doctrine, including other Muslims. You seem under the impression they're freedom fighters of some kind, but they're not.

Your second comment, they have taken people who are working for humanitarian purposes, helping people, giving them aid... and ISIL have slaughtered them. I think we can complain, quite loudly, when they do this.

ISIL have no regard for human life. They slaughter in the most barbaric ways, they use rape as a weapon of war, they are indiscriminate in their cruelty. Once they are captured and their guilt proven, I have no problem with them being executed to stop them infesting the world.

Do I fkng LOVE this ballsy woman.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Do I fkng LOVE this ballsy woman.

yes... as do i. was so close to ripping him one myself, but I think this ballsy woman put it beautifully.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

yes... as do i. was so close to ripping him one myself, but I think this ballsy woman put it beautifully.

You're also ballsy, and you're also on my love list too Ninastar.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You're also ballsy, and you're also on my love list too Ninastar.

thank you /blush200

u r pretty fab too if i dont say so myself xo

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Livia

Your first comment... they would have no intention of backing off. It's not just the west they're against. They kill anyone who doesn't agree with their doctrine, including other Muslims. You seem under the impression they're freedom fighters of some kind, but they're not.

Your second comment, they have taken people who are working for humanitarian purposes, helping people, giving them aid... and ISIL have slaughtered them. I think we can complain, quite loudly, when they do this.

ISIL have no regard for human life. They slaughter in the most barbaric ways, they use rape as a weapon of war, they are indiscriminate in their cruelty. Once they are captured and their guilt proven, I have no problem with them being executed to stop them infesting the world.

If only... I don't see anything wrong with our forces secretly torturing and then executing confirmed terrorists, maybe if word got out and the other side started to ramp up the sh!t they did to our boys when captured, that would be the only reason not to torture these scum. For all we know, we may be torturing them, I hope so anyway. If they are hopefully they are killing them once they're finished.

They deserve no mercy, no pity, nothing. The Geneva convention should rite them off and allow any countries military to fight them however they personally see fit. The soldier a while back who shot a wounded terrorist in the head got punished, what a joke.

I think the moralists among us need to realise that torturing these worthless piles of filth isn't going to set a bad example and will not cause the enemy to do worse things, they are at 10 and in reality the dial doesn't go up to 11. It's quite frankly time the gloves came off and we got the green light to fight them properly. Shoot to kill, incendiary, white phosphorus, torture, capture & questioning anyone associated with a terrorist over there or here, whatever it takes.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

Your first comment... they would have no intention of backing off. It's not just the west they're against. They kill anyone who doesn't agree with their doctrine, including other Muslims. You seem under the impression they're freedom fighters of some kind, but they're not.

Your second comment, they have taken people who are working for humanitarian purposes, helping people, giving them aid... and ISIL have slaughtered them. I think we can complain, quite loudly, when they do this.

ISIL have no regard for human life. They slaughter in the most barbaric ways, they use rape as a weapon of war, they are indiscriminate in their cruelty. Once they are captured and their guilt proven, I have no problem with them being executed to stop them infesting the world.

Fantastic post,nothing for me to say,I agree with every word on this post.
Except to say I myself would support any measures taken to rid the Earth of these truly vile things.
I won't call them people.