[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't know anyone who is religious who spends more time talking about and thinking about God than you do. You're obsessed. If I found myself spending as much time trying to rubbish your theories as you spend trying to rubbish religion, I would take some time off and get some talking therapy.

Not my thread and I am talking about science, Kaz is talking about old religious books

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not my thread and I am talking about science, Kaz is talking about old religious books

The two aren't exclusive of each other. I have a physicist cousin who is devout... and I'm guessing he knows more about science and more about the bible than you and I combined.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

The two aren't exclusive of each other. I have a physicist cousin who is devout... and I'm guessing he knows more about science and more about the bible than you and I combined.

maybe he does maybe he does not and maybe he is not that devout


whatever devout means

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

maybe he does maybe he does not and maybe he is not that devout


whatever devout means

You know what devout means. And yes, he's completely devout. Of course you would question that because it doesn't fit in with your particular view. But it's possible to be both religious AND intelligent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

You know what devout means. And yes, he's completely devout. Of course you would question that because it doesn't fit in with your particular view. But it's possible to be both religious AND intelligent.

I tend to find that the intelligent ones just hide it better

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I tend to find that the intelligent ones just hide it better

I consider myself one of the intelligent ones and I don't feel the need to hide anything.

Like I've said lots of times before, I have no problem with your beliefs. I don't consider you stupid or less intelligent because you believe something different from me. So please, don't try to intimate that I'm less intelligent because I believe something different from you. Because it is simply not true.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I consider myself one of the intelligent ones and I don't feel the need to hide anything.

Like I've said lots of times before, I have no problem with your beliefs. I don't consider you stupid or less intelligent because you believe something different from me. So please, don't try to intimate that I'm less intelligent because I believe something different from you. Because it is simply not true.

I dont think I ever do but this thread is based on an anecdotal and fairly preposterous notion and as such it tends to lead itsself into the realms of hilarity. No one in all the pages has really came to any conclusion other than what GG said earlier.

You are being overly defensive where you dont need to be

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Livia:

"You know what devout means. And yes, he's completely devout. Of course you would question that because it doesn't fit in with your particular view. But it's possible to be both religious AND intelligent."

LT's response:

"I tend to find that the intelligent ones just hide it better"


: joker:

This coming from someone who pulls out Krauss's 'A Universe Out Of Nothing' (more from me later on this crap) and waves it in triumph as if it once and forever destroys all theism.

Once again LT you contradict yourself, because, on the one hand you decry Livia's quite rational statement, that; "it's possible to be both religious AND intelligent." and on the other you espouse Krauss's B.S. book, yet -- Krauss's totally illogical, scientifically impossible proposition is solely based on the 'Big Bang theory' (Yes - that's 'Theory' LT because that's all it is) and the said 'theory' was proposed by none other than Monseigneur Georges Lemaitre - a Belgian Catholic priest.

Lemaitre was not only a priest, he was an astronomer and professor of physics, and in addition to being the first to propose 'the Big Bang Theory', he was also the first to propose the theory of 'an expanding universe' - which he published two years before Hubble, although Hubble was accredited (probably because he was not a priest).

Lemaire also proposed what we now all call 'Hubble's law' and the 'Hubble Constant', which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble.

So much for your contention.