[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"Come on Ed, get your front team together,"


How can he when half of them want him out.

No they don't and that is not the case at all.

I still hope he will learn that negatives can be turned into positives,as I outlined as to the SNP.

Alex Salmond was ridiculed in the independence referendum campaign by those at the very top of UK politics and the press too.
He narrowly lost the fight for the referendum results he wanted but the SNP coming together, rallying round their leadership despite all that negativity towards his cause and himself.
Has seen him as he hands over to Nicola Sturgeon being seen as one of the better politicians in the UK and he would have remained so had he stayed as leader too.

Those who fired the negativity, the ridicule, the insults and the threats are the ones who have lost the credibility.
It can be done and if the Labour party unite around their leadership,the full team of Shadow Ministers, the election is still able to be theirs.

3 days ago we had a poll saying the Conservatives were 3% ahead of Labour 32% to 29% respectively, today the you gov poll says Labour has a 3% lead with 35% to the Conservatives 32%.
All the polls are saying the same thing, things are close between the 2 main parties but the fact is, if the polls stay as they are then Labour will be the next govt.

All the main parties need a shake up but as yet there is no proven record of Ed Miliband lying to and misleading the voters, as there is with the other 2.
I really do still believe he can win in 2015 and rather strongly too.

[arista]

"that is not the case at all."


How would you know?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"that is not the case at all."


How would you know?

Simple,There is not a single front bench MP of the Labour party that has come forward and said in any form whatsoever that they want Ed Miliband to go.

You only have the stories of the press with their likely inventions as to stories and their 'anonymous' sources.
None of whom have even been named by the press either to force them out in the open.
Therefore,I can easily accept that none of the Shadow cabinet or the bulk of Labour MPs want a change of leader at this time.

It was quoted in a certain rag of a paper that both Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper,(Ed Ball's wife),had signified they would put themselves forward for the leadership.
Both called the report total nonsense,both said it was pure fiction on the particular paper's part.
The paper has never come back on that so clearly Andy and Yvette were correct. nothing of any substance just rubbish reporting and inventing of storylines.

I talk to people in the Labour party every day rather than the trashy press,as I do to some in other parties too and that is how I believe I can say I know.
It is also how I know 100% that no way will Ed Miliband not be leader in the election of 2015.
Despite what others may hope to see come about.

I also for one will be out with hoards of others battling for Labour and Ed Miliband all through the election campaign,every vote fought for and I think and hope there will be a good positive result.

Whatever happens,Labour majority govt. a Labour led coalition or a Labour minority govt. as long as this rotten heartless shower are turfed out of power, all will be good in my eyes.
Whatever else may happen, that is what I believe will happen too, this lot out and well out too.

[arista]

"that has come forward"

Of Course


But many months to go Lad



Also ITN, BBC and SkyNews Reporters have spoken
direct to Labour MP's
and they are waiting for their moment.


Thats not made up

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

"that has come forward"

Of Course


But many months to go Lad



Also ITN, BBC and SkyNews Reporters have spoken
direct to Labour MP's
and they are waiting for their moment.


Thats not made up

I feel fairly sure that someone as politically astute as you are arista,with your deep and great knowledge of elections and your own observances of politics, know also that there will be no change of leader of any party now before the 2015 election.

After that election now, there could well be at least 2 changes of Leader pretty quick too depending on the result.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Simple,There is not a single front bench MP of the Labour party that has come forward and said in any form whatsoever that they want Ed Miliband to go.

You only have the stories of the press with their likely inventions as to stories and their 'anonymous' sources.
None of whom have even been named by the press either to force them out in the open.
Therefore,I can easily accept that none of the Shadow cabinet or the bulk of Labour MPs want a change of leader at this time.

It was quoted in a certain rag of a paper that both Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper,(Ed Ball's wife),had signified they would put themselves forward for the leadership.
Both called the report total nonsense,both said it was pure fiction on the particular papers part.
The paper has never come back on that so clearly Andy and Yvette were correct. nothing of any substance just rubbish reporting and inventing of storylines.

I talk to people in the Labour party every day rather than the trashy press,as I do to some in other parties too and that is how I belive I can say I know.
It is also how I know 100% that no way will Ed Miliband not be leader in the election of 2015.
Despite what others may hope to see come about.

I also for one will be out with hoards of others battling for Labour and Ed Miliband all through the election campaign,every vote fought for and I think and hope there will be a good positive result.

Whatever happens,Labour majority govt. a Labour led coalition or a Labour minority govt. as long as this rotten heartless shower are turfed out of power, all will be good in my eyes.
Whatever else may happen, that is what I belive will happen too, this lot out and well out too.