[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Alex
two bombs was enough
But they wanted more fast Atomic testing on Murdering Humans.

And Japan is not doing well
Also Germany is now not doing well

both are doing more well than the UK. so let's keep that in perspective. Both are at the g20 meeting right???

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

both are doing more well than the UK. so let's keep that in perspective. Both are at the g20 meeting right???

Actually Britain is doing much better than Germany and our recovery from the recession has been much faster.

I really don't think you understand how annoying it is to hear an American who wasn't alive during WW2 and has never served in any of the forces, remind Europe of what a big deal you were in the war. Most of Europe and a large part of the rest of the free world had been fighting for three years by the time the USA was attacked by Japan and decided they'd better throw in their lot with the allies. Much like WW1, in fact. The outcome of WW2 would probably have been different without the intervention of the USA,but you've got to remember that the UK, Canada (the first to arrive), India, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa... lots and lots of countries fought the Nazis. The USA didn't swoop in like Captain America and save the day, no matter what Hollywood might tell you. The allies were up against the wire even with the USA. I have massive respect for the Americans who did come, many of whom lost their lives. But the "we saved yo ass..." sentiments from people who never fought and never will is tiresome.

As for the V2... it's good the engineers went to the USA and helped America win the Space Race. Much better and more positive than focusing on the rockets they built for Hitler that killed thousands of civilians in Britain.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Livia

Actually Britain is doing much better than Germany and our recovery from the recession has been much faster.

I really don't think you understand how annoying it is to hear an American who wasn't alive during WW2 and has never served in any of the forces, remind Europe of what a big deal you were in the war. Most of Europe and a large part of the rest of the free world had been fighting for three years by the time the USA was attacked by Japan and decided they'd better throw in their lot with the allies. Much like WW1, in fact. The outcome of WW2 would probably have been different without the intervention of the USA,but you've got to remember that the UK, Canada (the first to arrive), India, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa... lots and lots of countries fought the Nazis. The USA didn't swoop in like Captain America and save the day, no matter what Hollywood might tell you. The allies were up against the wire even with the USA. I have massive respect for the Americans who did come, many of whom lost their lives. But the "we saved yo ass..." sentiments from people who never fought and never will is tiresome.

As for the V2... it's good the engineers went to the USA and helped America win the Space Race. Much better and more positive than focusing on the rockets they built for Hitler that killed thousands of civilians in Britain.

Actually that's exactly what it was like. Britain was losing the war before America got involved, and America did swoop in and turn the tides.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

Actually that's exactly what it was like. Britain was losing the war before America got involved, and America did swoop in and turn the tides.

Yes America
got Pearl Harbor
The Empire of Japans Clever
Sunday morning attack December 7, 1941.

That Dragged them into War

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes America
got Pearl Harbor
The Empire of Japans Clever
Sunday morning attack December 7, 1941.

That Dragged them into War

yes we were dragged into the war, just like all of Europe was. DO you think England was fighting against Germany just from altruistic purpose?

No, they only joined the war when they were threatened too, just like America.

England even tried to make peace treaties with the Nazi's.

England was even trying to negotiate with Germany to keep control of other countries. England only started their war against the Nazi's when their own interests were threatened. England was just as selfish and reluctant as America was at the start.