[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

The least effort to get to the final?

For me I feel that Andrea or Fleur has put the most effort into making this final for different reasons, Andrea because he has no home territory and he doesn't have the conventional looks, and your average Brit on the street might struggle to connect with him so he had to rely on solid performances to get to the final.

Fleur is obviously not the best vocalist in the competition so she had to overcome that by going down the Urban performer route, and showing off her assets and trying to make it work for her which she has done tbf to her.

Ben however is doing a Matt Cardle imo, gliding through to the final off his looks and looks alone, his talented tbf but there has been stronger vocalists than him this year imo, and I feel that he never pushes himself enough, his suppose to be a Rocker yet he has probably the least stage presence of everyone in this series, he constantly just poses throughout his performances instead of actually emoting, I also feel that he could sing songs like “I'll Crap On This Stage“ or “You're Like Aids” and he would still make the final with ease.

But yeah anyway who do you feel put in the most and least effort into making the final?

Erm,excuse me Mocky,Matt Cardle IS talented imo.he is still releasing albums and touring he's just not gobby about it,imo he was one of the best to come out of XFactor,he just wouldn't follow Simons rules so Simon got childish about it,lol,so to say Matt is getting by on his looks is unfair tbh,the guy has talent simple as.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Erm,excuse me Mocky,Matt Cardle IS talented imo.he is still releasing albums and touring he's just not gobby about it,imo he was one of the best to come out of XFactor,he just wouldn't follow Simons rules so Simon got childish about it,lol,so to say Matt is getting by on his looks is unfair tbh,the guy has talent simple as.

Good for him for going against Simon. He wouldn't know talent if it smacked him in the face. He's more interested in looks.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by NevaSnow

Good for him for going against Simon. He wouldn't know talent if it smacked him in the face. He's more interested in looks.

I like Simon but he can be such a diva sometimes,lol,to cut Matt out of any XFactor promotion is just childish.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Erm,excuse me Mocky,Matt Cardle IS talented imo.he is still releasing albums and touring he's just not gobby about it,imo he was one of the best to come out of XFactor,he just wouldn't follow Simons rules so Simon got childish about it,lol,so to say Matt is getting by on his looks is unfair tbh,the guy has talent simple as.

Tbf Matt just isn't my style, well done to him for what his achieved though.

Ben is meant to be my style of Music though and I feel like his just trying to coast through off other reasons instead and that we only get to hear like 60% of what he can actually do.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Mockerdeer

Tbf Matt just isn't my style, well done to him for what his achieved though.

Ben is meant to be my style of Music though and I feel like his just trying to coast through off other reasons instead and that we only get to hear like 60% of what he can actually do.

I know what you mean Mock,I was teasing you a bit,but I do like Matts music,but I see yours is a more 'rocky' taste,is that right? I think Ben given the right songs would be pretty awesome,he needs to get 'into' the 'feel' of the song more and be a bit more charismatic and not be sloppy.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I know what you mean Mock,I was teasing you a bit,but I do like Matts music,but I see yours is a more 'rocky' taste,is that right? I think Ben given the right songs would be pretty awesome,he needs to get 'into' the 'feel' of the song more and be a bit more charismatic and not be sloppy.

I'm into Rock, Indie, and Pop songs with a lot of atmosphere to them.

Ben showed potential with Highway To Hell, but has faded back to being dead in the eyes since.