[arista]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...np-westminster


How very nice

[joeysteele]

I am back now,just arrived back from home after Christmas.I was sure arista would have some topic ready for me to get to grips with.
I wouldn't be rubbing my hands with glee really, because the fact is that the Conservative party,(well it is now), and Lib Dems will be virtually non existent in Scotland after the 2015 election in all probability.

Labour do have problems in Scotland,no doubt at all about that, however the good thing will be,all the seats will go to the SNP.
That is not surprising since I think the SNP have done a superb job in Scotland anyway.

I myself, do not think the bloodbath predicted for Labour will be as severe as this poll suggests but as a Labour supporter, neither am I bothered.
The SNP,as Nicola Sturgeon has said, will ''never' support a Conservative led govt. She has said, she can do a deal with Labour and for me that is good news.

The compassion within the Labour party's policies coupled with the SNP re-inforcing that compassion and demanding fairer policies are needed,can only be a good thing and make for a far better govt than this rotten heartless bunch we have had for the last almost 5 years now.

So if the poll above,changes and support returns to Labour or if it stays as it is,it makes little difference,with the SNP supporting a Labour led govt,we may even get stronger,more compassionate and 'fair policies for the next 5 years.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am back now,just arrived back from home after Christmas.I was sure arista would have some topic ready for me to get to grips with.
I wouldn't be rubbing my hands with glee really, because the fact is that the Conservative party,(well it is now), and Lib Dems will be virtually non existent in Scotland after the 2015 election in all probability.

Labour do have problems in Scotland,no doubt at all about that, however the good thing will be,all the seats will go to the SNP.
That is not surprising since I think the SNP have done a superb job in Scotland anyway.

I myself, do not think the bloodbath predicted for Labour will be as severe as this poll suggests but as a Labour supporter, neither am I bothered.
The SNP,as Nicola Sturgeon has said, will ''never' support a Conservative led govt. She has said, she can do a deal with Labour and for me that is good news.

The compassion within the Labour party's policies coupled with the SNP re-inforcing that compassion and demanding fairer policies are needed,can only be a good thing and make for a far better govt than this rotten heartless bunch we have had for the last almost 5 years now.

So if the poll above,changes and support returns the Labour or if it stays as it is,it makes little difference,with the SNP supporting a Labour led govt,we may even get stronger,more compassionate and 'fair policies for the next 5 years.

(me praying)

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by ArchAngel

(me praying)

Well one thing is for sure Kizzy, if they have a larger number of MPs in Parliament after the 2015 election, the one thing the SNP will never inflict on the UK as a whole will be a Conservative led govt.

It is likely why David Cameron is desperate to do something as to English MPs voting on only English issues.
He hasn't the time to thankfully and I do not look at MPs elected in general elections as anything else than Westminster MPs.

The Conservative party would with their preferred plans rather have the whole of England dictated to by the far Southern MPs. who mainly are their own MPs, that they would call democracy.

The Scottish MPs,Welsh MPs and Irish MPs who get elected to Westminster are UK MPs, they should vote on anything that comes before the House of Commons in Westminster.

Those MPs elected in Scotland, Wales etc; do not get to vote in the 2 devolved assemblies so have to be able to vote in Westminster since they are elected to do so, and if elected as Labour, Conservative or Lib Dem, then they are elected to fully support that party in Westminster too.

If power is to be altered as to England, then England has to have devolved power too, and to the regions rather than just an English assembly.
I hail from Worcestershire,I now reside myself further North and whether I lived in either of those areas,I certainly do not want an English votes system in Westminster where those smug far South Tories dictate to the whole of the rest of England,no way and a big no thank you to any of that.

So I am not that bothered if the SNP win the vast majority of seats in Scotland.
They will be dedicated to fair and compassionate policies, as to welfare reforms, the NHS and they too want rid of the bedroom tax.
They actually sound more Labour than Labour do, so the poll at the head of this thread,rather than worry me or disappoint me, actually fills me with greater enthusiasm as to the 'better' kind of govt. there could be after the election.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I am back now,just arrived back from home after Christmas.I was sure arista would have some topic ready for me to get to grips with.
I wouldn't be rubbing my hands with glee really, because the fact is that the Conservative party,(well it is now), and Lib Dems will be virtually non existent in Scotland after the 2015 election in all probability.

Labour do have problems in Scotland,no doubt at all about that, however the good thing will be,all the seats will go to the SNP.
That is not surprising since I think the SNP have done a superb job in Scotland anyway.

I myself, do not think the bloodbath predicted for Labour will be as severe as this poll suggests but as a Labour supporter, neither am I bothered.
The SNP,as Nicola Sturgeon has said, will ''never' support a Conservative led govt. She has said, she can do a deal with Labour and for me that is good news.

The compassion within the Labour party's policies coupled with the SNP re-inforcing that compassion and demanding fairer policies are needed,can only be a good thing and make for a far better govt than this rotten heartless bunch we have had for the last almost 5 years now.

So if the poll above,changes and support returns the Labour or if it stays as it is,it makes little difference,with the SNP supporting a Labour led govt,we may even get stronger,more compassionate and 'fair policies for the next 5 years.

is a pretty accurate summary - the FM is no lover of the greedy south and yes the SNP have been excellent in Scotland and we have a far fairer and more benevolent society.

Joey has called it straight