[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Bottom 2 on friday and you're still pretending he's popular.

He only survived because he was against a non entity.

Originally Posted by adamski94

He got lucky by being put up with a nobody

Alicia was hardly a "non entity" and a "nobody". Quite an exaggeration imo.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Alicia was hardly a "non entity" and a "nobody". Quite an exaggeration imo.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Alicia was hardly a "non entity" and a "nobody". Quite an exaggeration imo.

She hardly had any fans and only surived the previous week on pity

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by adamski94

She hardly had any fans and only surived the previous week on pity

I don't recall talking about her popularity with the public.

The claims of her being a "non-entity" and a "nobody" were in reference to her time in the house, were they not? As I said, she was far from either of those things, she was featured a lot more than various others.

And stop speaking for others without actual information. Some of us liked her anyway, to claim that every single fan of hers was only a fan because of pity is a lazy claim.

Also, she was doing well on most polls (not just here). Sure, she polled last in the actual votes, but it's clear she did have plenty of fans, regardless of how many of them actually voted.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't recall talking about her popularity with the public.

The claims of her being a "non-entity" and a "nobody" were in reference to her time in the house, were they not? As I said, she was far from either of those things, she was featured a lot more than various others.

And stop speaking for others without actual information. Some of us liked her anyway, to claim that every single fan of hers was only a fan because of pity is a lazy claim.

She is famous for who she shagged and she made herself a target in the house

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by adamski94

She is famous for who she shagged and she made herself a target in the house

I'm unsure about her reason for being famous is even slightly relevant to my post.

And no, she didn't "make herself a target". That's an appalling mindset as far as I'm concerned.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I'm unsure about her reason for being famous is even slightly relevant to my post.

And no, she didn't "make herself a target". That's an appalling mindset as far as I'm concerned.

She was the one going from one group to another telling them what they said

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by adamski94

She was the one going from one group to another telling them what they said

Really? I don't recall that at all. I remember one occasion of her telling Perez and Nadia something that Kavana told her, which doesn't constitute as "going from one group to another".

Not to mention "going from one group to another" had nothing to do with her being a target of the nastiness she received, so I'm once again confused as to why that's relevant. She was initially targetted because she committed the crime of taking more bananas, when Katie H and Michelle themselves hid food. it snowballed from there. Saying someone "made themselves a target" is just a way to absolve people of nasty behaviour that they alone are accountable for.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Alicia was hardly a "non entity" and a "nobody". Quite an exaggeration imo.

imo it's accurate. People only started caring she was there when they realized they could pull the bully card out and slap it on Katie Hopkins.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

imo it's accurate. People only started caring she was there when they realized they could pull the bully card out and slap it on Katie Hopkins.

Yet another case of someone thinking they can speak for others. How about you speak for yourself and let others speak for themselves? It's not too much to ask.

Some people only started caring because of the fact (yes, fact) that some of them treated her like crap, that doesn't stand for all.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Yet another case of someone thinking they can speak for others. How about you speak for yourself and let others speak for themselves? It's not too much to ask.

Some people only started caring because of the fact (yes, fact) that some of them treated her like crap, that doesn't stand for all.

Well said

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Yet another case of someone thinking they can speak for others. How about you speak for yourself and let others speak for themselves? It's not too much to ask.

Some people only started caring because of the fact (yes, fact) that some of them treated her like crap, that doesn't stand for all.

I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and in that opinion from facebook, twitter and this very forum - a majority of people only started to care about Alicia when she and Katie had disagreements.

Her leaving IMO is due to the fact she had barely are real support and just Hopkins haters liking them clashing.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and in that opinion from facebook, twitter and this very forum - a majority of people only started to care about Alicia when she and Katie had disagreements.

Her leaving IMO is due to the fact she had barely are real support and just Hopkins haters liking them clashing.

You're entitled to an opinion, I never disputed that. You're not, however, entitled to speak for me. That's different from simply sharing an opinion on the show. I don't try to tell you why you support the housemates you do, do I? I see you've changed it to "a majority" now, but you absolutely generalised Alicia supporters as a whole previously.

Though, your last part slips back into that. My support of her wasn't down to be being a "Hopkins hater", I actually liked their relationship by the end so that logic being applied to all goes out of the window right there.