[Tip]

I think it's worrying to narrow what is "normal" in human behaviour and responses and treat too much outside of that as a "disorder".

Where things affect ones ability to cope or deal with life effectively, then indeed diagnoses can be more than just useful.

It is also argued that we need humans with a different mix or degree of different traits and as long as they aren't dysfunctional then we shouldn't be too concerned about saying something is "wrong".

In certain circumstances it could be seen as highly desirable to have a less empathetic or more sociopathic leaning for survival.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by Tip

I think it's worrying to narrow what is "normal" in human behaviour and responses and treat too much outside of that as a "disorder".

Where things affect ones ability to cope or deal with life effectively, then indeed diagnoses can be more than just useful.

It is also argued that we need humans with a different mix or degree of different traits and as long as they aren't dysfunctional then we shouldn't be too concerned about saying something is "wrong".

In certain circumstances it could be seen as highly desirable to have a less empathetic or more sociopathic leaning for survival.

Very well put and I totally agree, Katie in a real survival situation would be a better companion that most other people. Certainty in a genuine war situation she would make a good leader. I also would guess that she would make sacrifices without emotional regret as all the best leaders are prepared to do.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat

Very well put and I totally agree, Katie in a real survival situation would be a better companion that most other people. Certainty in a genuine war situation she would make a good leader. I also would guess that she would make sacrifices without emotional regret as all the best leaders are prepared to do.

Yep, absolutely this. We need sociopaths in our world but we just need them in the right places.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yep, absolutely this. We need sociopaths in our world but we just need them in the right places.

They can also be dangerous to follow and misinterpret which I think the public popularity is largely. If she is a sociopath and is charming a lot of people I don't really understand why we aren't all falling for it. Are we the cynics or the empaths?

You nailed asbergers much more information eloquently than I did. You are right people with asbergers that I have had experience with have all been remorseful when realising they have done something wrong in the sense of hurting others with detachment or violence. Hopkins for me seems to lack empathy.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

They can also be dangerous to follow and misinterpret which I think the public popularity is largely. If she is a sociopath and is charming a lot of people I don't really understand why we aren't all falling for it. Are we the cynics or the empaths?

We are empaths and we listen to our intuition. BTW, have you ever read a book called 'The Gift of Fear"?. I think you would enjoy it.

Those who are indifferent to someone bullying or take sides with a bully tend to be apaths.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

We are empaths and we listen to our intuition. BTW, have you ever read a book called 'The Gift of Fear"?. I think you would enjoy it.

Those who are indifferent to someone bullying or take sides with a bully tend to be apaths.

Thanks for the book tip, I'll download from amazon.

I agree with your assessment of Perez and his relationship with Hopkins. What I find harder to understand is the public demonization of him. I am not a fan but can't see that he has done anything to warrant the hate, he's annoying but he isn't a bully like James Jordan. He isn't kicking any puppies.(Hopkins is the puppy kicker in the house). The Perez hate seems a little OTT.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Thanks for the book tip, I'll download from amazon.

I agree with your assessment of Perez and his relationship with Hopkins. WhatI find harder to understand is the public demonization of him. I am noy a fan but can't see that he has done anything to warrant the hate, he's annoying but he isn't a bully like James Jordan. He isn't kicking any puppies.(Hopkins is the puppy kicker in the house). The Perez hate seems a little OTT.

TBH any hate is ott, for me the moment Perez seemingly at random attacked Katie in the grave task was the moment I was fixed in my dislike for him, everything else just reinforced that feeling. It just seemed so vicious, spiteful and random.