[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes they've had to knock their corners off to fit in with the mainstream... That's not to say that they don't have those principles still at their core. Look at the type of people drawn to UKIP

Yeah; YOU look at the type of people drawn to UKIP - a relatively New party who have time to wheedle out any 'supposed' 'racists' or 'homophobes' - and I'll look at just a few of THE MANY, MANY CROOKS and SCUMBAGS which have INFESTED the LABOUR PARTY from the year DOT:

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LABOUR HOME SECRETARY JACQUI SMITH FIDDLES £116,000 in FRAUDULENT EXPENSES CLAIM (Not to mention hubby's PORN FILM CLAIMS).

LABOUR MP SHAID MALIK FORCED TO REPAY EXPENSES FRAUDENTLY CLAIMED FOR COUNCIL TAX, NEW TV & NEW CHAIR. (Not to mention previously surviving a Parliamentary sleaze inquiry into his claims and a second probe into whether he breached the ministerial code by benefiting from a preferential rent. )

LABOUR EMPLOYMENT MINISTER TONY McNULTY FORCED TO RESIGN AFTER POCKETING £60,000 CLAIMS ON HIS PARENT'S HOME.

LABOUR MP ANN KEEN AND HUSBAND ALAN KEEN INVESTIGATED BY PARLIAMENTARY COMMISSIONER FOR STANDARDS AFTER FRAUDENTLY COMBINING SECOND HOME ALLOWANCES AND CLAIMING £175,000 TO BUY SWANKY PAD IN UPMARKET WATERLOO. ORDERED TO REPAY JUST £1,500.

LABOUR MP HELEN BLEARS FORCED TO STAND DOWN AFTER CAPITAL GAINS TAX FIDDLE. SHE WAS ORDERED TO REPAY £13,332.00.

LABOUR MINISTER PHIL HOPE FORCED TO REPAY £41,709 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY WHICH HE FIDDLED IN A SERIES OF CLAIMS FOR POSH FURNITURE AT THE SMALL LONDON FLAT HE CLAIMED AS HIS SECOND HOME. (Those who inspected his expenses claims believed it would not even be possible for him to fit all the furniture into the flat.)

LABOUR MP MARGARET MORAN FORCED TO STAND DOWN AFTER FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMING MORE THAN £20,000 OF TAXPAYER'S MONEY FOR THE TREATMENT OF DRY ROT AT HER PARTNER'S HOME.

And I thought LABOUR were THE party for the working classes NOT THE party who consistently rip off those hard pressed worker's TAX payments.

And I haven't STARTED on the TORY sleazebags yet.

Yeah .... It's more logical to support two parties who have each had many chances in government but have done nothing except 'U turns and break promises, and who have ALWAYS been riddled with corruption and sleaze, than it is to give a party a chance who has the strongest manifesto, no history of sleaze, and a thoroughly honest and decent leader -- all because of propaganda driven fears of what might or might not happen.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Yeah; YOU look at the type of people drawn to UKIP - a relatively New party who have time to wheedle out any 'supposed' 'racists' or 'homophobes' - and I'll look at just a few of THE MANY, MANY CROOKS and SCUMBAGS which have INFESTED the LABOUR PARTY from the year DOT:

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LABOUR HOME SECRETARY JACQUI SMITH FIDDLES £116,000 in FRAUDULENT EXPENSES CLAIM (Not to mention hubby's PORN FILM CLAIMS).

LABOUR MP SHAID MALIK FORCED TO REPAY EXPENSES FRAUDENTLY CLAIMED FOR COUNCIL TAX, NEW TV & NEW CHAIR. (Not to mention previously surviving a Parliamentary sleaze inquiry into his claims and a second probe into whether he breached the ministerial code by benefiting from a preferential rent. )

LABOUR EMPLOYMENT MINISTER TONY McNULTY FORCED TO RESIGN AFTER POCKETING £60,000 CLAIMS ON HIS PARENT'S HOME.

LABOUR MP ANN KEEN AND HUSBAND ALAN KEEN INVESTIGATED BY PARLIAMENTARY COMMISSIONER FOR STANDARDS AFTER FRAUDENTLY COMBINING SECOND HOME ALLOWANCES AND CLAIMING £175,000 TO BUY SWANKY PAD IN UPMARKET WATERLOO. ORDERED TO REPAY JUST £1,500.

LABOUR MP HELEN BLEARS FORCED TO STAND DOWN AFTER CAPITAL GAINS TAX FIDDLE. SHE WAS ORDERED TO REPAY £13,332.00.

LABOUR MINISTER PHIL HOPE FORCED TO REPAY £41,709 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY WHICH HE FIDDLED IN A SERIES OF CLAIMS FOR POSH FURNITURE AT THE SMALL LONDON FLAT HE CLAIMED AS HIS SECOND HOME. (Those who inspected his expenses claims believed it would not even be possible for him to fit all the furniture into the flat.)

LABOUR MP MARGARET MORAN FORCED TO STAND DOWN AFTER FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMING MORE THAN £20,000 OF TAXPAYER'S MONEY FOR THE TREATMENT OF DRY ROT AT HER PARTNER'S HOME.

And I thought LABOUR were THE party for the working classes NOT THE party who consistently rip off those hard pressed worker's TAX payments.

And I haven't STARTED on the TORY sleazebags yet.

Yeah .... It's more logical to support two parties who have each had many chances in government but have done nothing except 'U turns and break promises, and who have ALWAYS been riddled with corruption and sleaze, than it is to give a party a chance who has the strongest manifesto, no history of sleaze, and a thoroughly honest and decent leader -- all because of propaganda driven fears of what might or might not happen.

people on here have short memories

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Yeah; YOU look at the type of people drawn to UKIP - a relatively New party who have time to wheedle out any 'supposed' 'racists' or 'homophobes' - and I'll look at just a few of THE MANY, MANY CROOKS and SCUMBAGS which have INFESTED the LABOUR PARTY from the year DOT:

[B]STOP PRESS: [/B]

LABOUR HOME SECRETARY JACQUI SMITH FIDDLES £116,000 in FRAUDULENT EXPENSES CLAIM (Not to mention hubby's PORN FILM CLAIMS).

LABOUR MP SHAID MALIK FORCED TO REPAY EXPENSES FRAUDENTLY CLAIMED FOR COUNCIL TAX, NEW TV & NEW CHAIR. (Not to mention previously surviving a Parliamentary sleaze inquiry into his claims and a second probe into whether he breached the ministerial code by benefiting from a preferential rent. )

LABOUR EMPLOYMENT MINISTER TONY McNULTY FORCED TO RESIGN AFTER POCKETING £60,000 CLAIMS ON HIS PARENT'S HOME.

LABOUR MP ANN KEEN AND HUSBAND ALAN KEEN INVESTIGATED BY PARLIAMENTARY COMMISSIONER FOR STANDARDS AFTER FRAUDENTLY COMBINING SECOND HOME ALLOWANCES AND CLAIMING £175,000 TO BUY SWANKY PAD IN UPMARKET WATERLOO. ORDERED TO REPAY JUST £1,500.

LABOUR MP HELEN BLEARS FORCED TO STAND DOWN AFTER CAPITAL GAINS TAX FIDDLE. SHE WAS ORDERED TO REPAY £13,332.00.

LABOUR MINISTER PHIL HOPE FORCED TO REPAY £41,709 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY WHICH HE FIDDLED IN A SERIES OF CLAIMS FOR POSH FURNITURE AT THE SMALL LONDON FLAT HE CLAIMED AS HIS SECOND HOME. (Those who inspected his expenses claims believed it would not even be possible for him to fit all the furniture into the flat.)

LABOUR MP MARGARET MORAN FORCED TO STAND DOWN AFTER FRAUDULENTLY CLAIMING MORE THAN £20,000 OF TAXPAYER'S MONEY FOR THE TREATMENT OF DRY ROT AT HER PARTNER'S HOME.

And I thought LABOUR were THE party for the working classes NOT THE party who consistently rip off those hard pressed worker's TAX payments.

And I haven't STARTED on the TORY sleazebags yet.

Yeah .... It's more logical to support two parties who have each had many chances in government but have done nothing except 'U turns and break promises, and who have ALWAYS been riddled with corruption and sleaze, than it is to give a party a chance who has the strongest manifesto, no history of sleaze, and a thoroughly honest and decent leader -- all because of propaganda driven fears of what might or might not happen.

Irrelevant, and to be honest as a young party the prevalence of instances where members misdemeanors seem to be a damning indictment of their core values.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Irrelevant, and to be honest as a young party the prevalence of instances where members misdemeanors seem to be a damning indictment of their core values.

It would be irrelevant. LMAO.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

It would be irrelevant. LMAO.

Yes it is, people are not drawn to labour or conservatives due to their views on fiddling tax are they? :/