[Ammi]

Originally Posted by EyeballPaul

Hmm...I think maybe it's because it was'nt how Simon looked that was the problem,It was how he was acting and so obviously desperate for attention and fame.He was acting like a complete idiot.He did'nt need to act like that.It was his TV persona in a desperate attention hungry bid to get fame.
Jack seems like a nice lad who just has a weight problem.You can see it all the time and he does'nt need to highlight it,He more than likely has heard every fat jibe going and has accepted it and makes a joke of it before everyone else does.He's not acted like an idiot yet,Although there's still time yet

..yeah I get that Paul and maybe 'irritating' is different but then we don't know either if his 'persona' is something that he uses because of any taunts, jibes etc that he may have had with his sexuality when he was younger, you know his defence thing as well..I guess a better one would be ..(and I'm only saying females in particular because I think that if they make their sex lives something about themselves then they are often judged more harshly in terms of...slag/slut/*****.. etc..and things that are often said..)...it's something I personally hate but also understand in a way because it's something they've particularly highlighted themselves and left themselves open....but with Jack and his weight, it's more...no, that makes you a horrid person to refer to it when it's what he has referred to himself in describing himself ..and you can't go there, stop.....but is it not a very similar and much the same thing...