[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I completely disagree, Joel has been dressing up in women's clothes before any of the incident with Aaron, and he certainly isnt the first BB housemate to do that.

Also not sure why all these comments are popping up about it saying he was acting like a queen tbh

Dressing up in women's clothes you say. Gee, I wonder why aaron might have thought he would be up for a drunken laugh and not go up to the diary room and pretend he had been victimised.

[Absorption]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Dressing up in women's clothes you say. Gee, I wonder why aaron might have thought he would be up for a drunken laugh and not go up to the diary room and pretend he had been victimised.

It was BB's judgement of what Aaron did which decided his fate (and his own actions), not what Joel said.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Absorption

It was BB's judgement of what Aaron did which decided his fate (and his own actions), not what Joel said.

I disagree. I think Joel's poor me act in the diary room is exactly what got aaron evicted. That is why they edited it into that particular sequence.

It was a narrative....aaron does it....gets called to diary room....gets sent to bed....joel goes in....aaron gets evicted.

It couldn't have been clearer.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

I disagree. I think Joel's poor me act in the diary room is exactly what got aaron evicted. That is why they edited it into that particular sequence.

It was a narrative....aaron does it....gets called to diary room....gets sent to bed....joel goes in....aaron gets evicted.

It couldn't have been clearer.

That might be the sequence of events as they happened last night.

But I would say they told Aaron to go straight to bed with the intention of discussing the incident. Maybe there wasn't enough people in a position to make that kind of decision at 2:30 in the morning?

If they had evicted Aaron straight away (before talking to Joel) that might have been seen like they didn't look at the bigger picture and deemed unfair, at least the way they did this, the time they took to make that decision looks like they took all they could into consideration.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Visage

That might be the sequence of events as they happened last night.

But I would say they told Aaron to go straight to bed with the intention of discussing the incident. Maybe there wasn't enough people in a position to make that kind of decision at 2:30 in the morning?

If they had evicted Aaron straight away (before talking to Joel) that might have been seen like they didn't look at the bigger picture and deemed unfair, at least the way they did this, the time they took to make that decision looks like they took all they could into consideration.

Exactly. And if Joel had said that it was all just a bit of banter then aaron would not have been evicted. They would not have asked joel if his input wasn't necessary.

Joel completely threw him under the bus.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Exactly. And if Joel had said that it was all just a bit of banter then aaron would not have been evicted. They would not have asked joel if his input wasn't necessary.

Joel completely threw him under the bus.

I think Joel genuinely felt uncomfortable with Aaron's unacceptable behaviour. Aaron went too far... But maybe Joel's dressing up in women's clothing and strutting around gave Aaron the impression that he could fool around the way he did.... And that Joel would just see it as a laugh...
Joel didn't know how to handle it...perhaps if he had told Aaron to **** off enough is enough...maybe Aaron would have stopped. However I don't think it is in Joel's nature to be forthright in that way. He seems to be quite diplomatic...but if he wants to be taken seriously he should IMO be more aware of how his behaviour can be construed.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

But maybe Joel's dressing up in women's clothing and strutting around gave Aaron the impression that he could fool around the way he did.... And that Joel would just see it as a laugh...

I don't understand how you made this leap personally

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Absorption

It was BB's judgement of what Aaron did which decided his fate (and his own actions), not what Joel said.

I think if Joel had said he wasn't uncomfortable with it, Aaron may have just got a warning. I might be wrong but that's what I think.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Dressing up in women's clothes you say. Gee, I wonder why aaron might have thought he would be up for a drunken laugh and not go up to the diary room and pretend he had been victimised.

Lots of the males in BB have dressed up in women's clothes, they don't all ask to be sexually assaulted after it.

Not even replying to the victim blaming. Hey maybe Joels skirt was too short eh.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Lots of the males in BB have dressed up in women's clothes, they don't all ask to be sexually assaulted after it.

Not even replying to the victim blaming. Hey maybe Joels skirt was too short eh.

Nobody has been sexually assaulted. To say otherwise is libelous toward aaron.

[Absorption]

Originally Posted by Josy

Lots of the males in BB have dressed up in women's clothes, they don't all ask to be sexually assaulted after it.

Not even replying to the victim blaming. Hey maybe Joels skirt was too short eh.

A voice not from the dark ages...thank you.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Dressing up in women's clothes you say. Gee, I wonder why aaron might have thought he would be up for a drunken laugh and not go up to the diary room and pretend he had been victimised.

Whether Joel is gay or straight, likes to mess around in women's clothes or not does not justify Aaron harassing him with no clothes on.

Parading around in daft clothes =/= rubbing your genitals on another person.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Whether Joel is gay or straight, likes to mess around in women's clothes or not does not justify Aaron harassing him with no clothes on.

Parading around in daft clothes =/= rubbing your genitals on another person.

Harassing him is just an interpretation that you have placed on it.

It was a bit of drunken banter between Joel and Aaron, that joel was fully involved in, to the point of throwing pillows at aaron and chasing him to kick him.

If someone is sexually attacking you then you move away, you don't move towards them and laugh while throwing pillows.