[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

When he goes on about brown nosers he winds me up so much! The originals are sticking together and there's nothing wrong with that. Newbies are doing the same. And don't get me started on Marc saying that Cristian nominating Sam is cowardly. Trust me he would have nominated Marc if he wasn't immune.

I don't really know what Marcs mad about. Maybe its not as obvious to those inside the house? But to me, everybody so far has nominated people that they don't appear too close to.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Withano

I don't really know what Marcs mad about. Maybe its not as obvious to those inside the house? But to me, everybody so far has nominated people that they don't appear too close to.

I agree. So far i think the nominations and their reasons are spot on.

[JayBlaze]

Hopefully one of the Bore Four leaves this week

[Rorkimaru]

Well the major difference was the handshake was him congratulating him on surviving a public vote, not an apology for him being nominated.

[sosadbbend]

Originally Posted by Absorption

...and this, in principle, is different from doing the handshake?

You've gotta love Marc, his hypocrisy knows no bounds. Sam is being taken in by the 'clique'...she should think for herself...by nominating who he wants her to!

(Which yesterday would have been Danny but today probably wouldn't be, because Marc and Danny are friends again, except Marc doesn't believe in having friends in the house...)

One of the friends that Marc has in the house, when he's in friends-allowed mood, is 'Showbiz'. That's the same Showbiz whom Marc agreed was right "not to get involved" in all the skullduggery that's going on. Yep, keep out of it, Simon... Of course, anyone else would be "sitting on the fence", "not having an opinion", "lying","needing to grow a pair", etc...

Perfectly observed..he is a walking hypocrisy

[tanussa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Lets be honest Vanessa you like anyone who is nice to Christian and hate them as soon as they say something negative about him,that doesn't work for me,I liked Christian but I do think he has been an utter knob especially to Jade which was nothing to do with Marc,he was the same with harry tonight,he seems to think he is above being nominated,

I suppose the way joel behaved when jack nom'd him was acceptable. cristian merely questioned her theory on why she wud hav nom'd him. cristian didnt make that bigga deal of it. poor lad cant say anything without u lot criticising him. lets hear wot u thought of the joel outburst, when joel knew full well that jack only had 4 to choose from. I thought it was a disgusting reaction.

[Mick]

Marc is entitled to voice his opinions what is wrong is when he attempts to intimidate others into thinking the same and he has done this right from the start.

The obsession he now has with influencing who gets nominated increased after he was evicted. The public supported him to go into the bunker because they knew of those available he would make the most of it but I think he read something different into this.He thought hey the public like me and I can now win this show and his every action since has been tactical with this in mind the very thing he constantly accuses others of doing.

Within that house it must be difficult even with good intention to behave as honest and natural as you would on the outside but in my view he is one of the least honest in there.I like harry because of all of them I feel she has proved the most honest.

[chuff me dizzy]

Spot on yet again from Marc,and thats exactly whats happened

[Trasadkel1]

Originally Posted by tanussa

I suppose the way joel behaved when jack nom'd him was acceptable. cristian merely questioned her theory on why she wud hav nom'd him. cristian didnt make that bigga deal of it. poor lad cant say anything without u lot criticising him. lets hear wot u thought of the joel outburst, when joel knew full well that jack only had 4 to choose from. I thought it was a disgusting reaction.

It's one rule for one and one rule for another on here. Double standards. To be honest I thought Harry was just looking for trouble when she was talking about who she would nominate. Why did she even have to bring up the fact that she would have nominated Marc or Cristian if she had the chance when he was stood right there. Of course he was going to query it particularly if, as far as he was concerned, he got on well with her but of course anything he does will be picked to pieces.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

It's one rule for one and one rule for another on here. Double standards. To be honest I thought Harry was just looking for trouble when she was talking about who she would nominate. Why did she even have to bring up the fact that she would have nominated Marc or Cristian if she had the chance when he was stood right there. Of course he was going to query it particularly if, as far as he was concerned, he got on well with her but of course anything he does will be picked to pieces.

I think it'a good that he can see what a tool Marc is. He's no friend, because he said he saved him, yet happily slagged him off with Helen. Marc has lost a friend and he only has himself to blame.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No Marc shook his hand when Christian was standing up after being nominated by Jade..
I am not shallow enough to support people that are 'cool and pretty'...I support people that stand up for what I see as right.
Marc's handshake was bizarre as Christian had just been nominated. Marc shook his hand...why? He has slagged the guy off endlessly. Christian responded because he saw it as a show of support...but it wasn't. Why would anyone shake his hand after being nominated?...you would either hug them in sympathy if you liked them..or just do nothing if you were satisfied with the nomination.
Danny reacted because Marc could only have been pleased with Jades nomination, having shown his dislike of Christian since returning to the house.

I know you like Marc..but you are mistaken in your observations and defending an unjustifiable reaction.

Well I may have got that wrong,but I still don't see what is so wrong in offering his hand and saying good luck(in as much as he hopes he doesn't go),some people can have a row and still like the other person,Marc is obviously one of those,Christian on the other hand would fall out with his granny if he thought she was standing in his way of 'looking good'

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think it'a good that he can see what a tool Marc is. He's no friend, because he said he saved him, yet happily slagged him off with Helen. Marc has lost a friend and he only has himself to blame.

Christian was never Marcs friend ,none of them are true friends,they are all out to win,I don't see why the dislike for Marc just because he said a few home truths about Christian,it doesn't mean he doesn't like him does it? Have you never been annoyed with a friend but still liked them? I know I have.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Christian was never Marcs friend ,none of them are true friends,they are all out to win,I don't see why the dislike for Marc just because he said a few home truths about Christian,it doesn't mean he doesn't like him does it? Have you never been annoyed with a friend but still liked them? I know I have.

Marc has treated Cristian horribly since he came back from the Bunker and i'm glad Cristian is standing up to him. That being said i wish Danny would stay out of it. It's not his job to fight other people's battles.

[Trasadkel1]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Marc has treated Cristian horribly since he came back from the Bunker and i'm glad Cristian is standing up to him. That being said i wish Danny would stay out of it. It's not his job to fight other people's battles.

This is exactly how I see it. Marc has treated Cristian despicably since he returned from the bunker and no he didn't save him from eviction. He was just as vocal in getting him put up. Cristian doesn't owe him anything after what he has said and done. I did think Cristian respected him prior to this and thought he had become friendly with him. As a result of this he has pushed him toward Danny. Big mistake because Marc could do with him on his side now.

With regard Danny he keeps on saying that Cristian is a kid and making out he cannot defend himself. Cristian is an intelligent boy and quite capable of defending himself when he has to and he does it in a lot less aggressive and reasoned way as well. Danny is wanting to be viewed as the hero who comes along and wins the day and in truth it is working for him shame as it is.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

This is exactly how I see it. Marc has treated Cristian despicably since he returned from the bunker and no he didn't save him from eviction. He was just as vocal in getting him put up. Cristian doesn't owe him anything after what he has said and done. I did think Cristian respected him prior to this and thought he had become friendly with him. As a result of this he has pushed him toward Danny. Big mistake because Marc could do with him on his side now.

With regard Danny he keeps on saying that Cristian is a kid and making out he cannot defend himself. Cristian is an intelligent boy and quite capable of defending himself when he has to and he does it in a lot less aggressive and reasoned way as well. Danny is wanting to be viewed as the hero who comes along and wins the day and in truth it is working for him shame as it is.

He did the same with Chloe . Why do they keep saying Cristian is too young ? He''s 20, so hardly a child.

[HBB1508]

I find Marc is just a walking hypocritical mess - he has a go at the others for doing exactly what he is guilty of doing - very annoying imo.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I find Marc is just a walking hypocritical mess - he has a go at the others for doing exactly what he is guilty of doing - very annoying imo.

This! He's a hypocrite . I hate him so much, even more than Helen.

[Trasadkel1]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He did the same with Chloe . Why do they keep saying Cristian is too young ? He''s 20, so hardly a child.

Think he has only just turned 20 but it doesn't mean he is a kid. Think Cristian has gone through quite a lot in his life and is quite capable of looking after himself. He keeps bringing up age though. It is all part of his "father figure" persona he is trying to create. Prior to Marc going into the bunker he had sat with Jack and criticised Cristian for spending all his time with Marc. Marc really played into his hands by pushing Cristian away with his actions when he returned.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Trasadkel1

Think he has only just turned 20 but it doesn't mean he is a kid. Think Cristian has gone through quite a lot in his life and is quite capable of looking after himself. He keeps bringing up age though. It is all part of his "father figure" persona he is trying to create. Prior to Marc going into the bunker he had sat with Jack and criticised Cristian for spending all his time with Marc. Marc really played into his hands by pushing Cristian away with his actions when he returned.

I'm very happy that Cristian is standing up to Marc. That took some courage. and I'm glad that the originals are sticking together. It will give them a better chance to stay.

[HBB1508]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This! He's a hypocrite . I hate him so much, even more than Helen.

I have them both about the same - can't stand either of them

[Trasadkel1]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

I have them both about the same - can't stand either of them

Same