[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Jack_

People keep making these points about how Brian reacted to her and was shouting at her. Yes, he did, I'm not denying that. But there was one scene where he sat on the sofa in silence, clearly shaking and about to cry and Helen goaded him, mocked him, said 'I am going to antagonise you now' and smirked and got enjoyment out of the fact he was showing weakness.

It doesn't matter whether he was aggressive before that, or aggressive after that. That one particular scene he did nothing and she continued to abuse him. That is bullying. If someone is saying nothing and you continue to abuse them, you are being a bully. It doesn't matter if they later respond or responded before, if someone isn't saying anything and you don't realise that enough is enough, then you are being a bully. Which she was.

A level argument where two people are going at it, which they both were in other scenes, absolutely fine. But one person going at someone who is sat in silence. Unacceptable, regardless of who it is.

It's not a level argument when he's physically much stronger than her and roaring at the top of his voice. She mentally destroyed him using the tools she has in her locker. I'm not saying that's right but she argued to her strengths, he argued to his and she won.

I hope he doesn't charge her too much for the space she's renting in his head. He will be haunted by her for a long time.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

It's not a level argument when he's physically much stronger than her and roaring at the top of his voice. She mentally destroyed him using the tools she has in her locker. I'm not saying that's right but she argued to her strengths, he argued to his and she won.

I hope he doesn't charge her too much for the space she's renting in his head. He will be haunted by her for a long time.

the delusion is real

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Quasar

the delusion is real

If you've a point to make then make it.

Otherwise just leave like you've threatened a few times tonight. I'm not going to stop you.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

If you've a point to make then make it.

Otherwise just leave like you've threatened a few times tonight. I'm not going to stop you.

My point was quite clear was it not?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

It's not a level argument when he's physically much stronger than her and roaring at the top of his voice.

Well for a start this is actually quite sexist suggesting that a man can't argue with a woman just because he's stronger than her. Pathetic.

And it was not a level argument when he was sat on the sofa in silence while she went at him. What part of that do you fail to understand?

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

I hope he doesn't charge her too much for the space she's renting in his head. He will be haunted by her for a long time.

This is actually a disgusting remark to make, as if it's some achievement that yes he will be scarred by her bullying. How ****ing disgusting. Seriously. ****ing vile.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well for a start this is actually quite sexist suggesting that a man can't argue with a woman just because he's stronger than her. Pathetic.

And it was not a level argument when he was sat on the sofa in silence while she went at him. What part of that do you fail to understand?



This is actually a disgusting remark to make, as if it's some achievement that yes he will be scarred by her bullying. How ****ing disgusting. Seriously. ****ing vile.

Don't bring the sex card into it I never suggested that. Don't read what I wrote, digest it and then **** it out and present it back to me like that's what I said.

All the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn't put Belo together again.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

Don't bring the sex card into it I never suggested that. Don't read what I wrote, digest it and then **** it out and present it back to me like that's what I said.

You insinuated that because he is physically stronger than her (which is usually the case because men are stronger than women) it was not a level argument and shouldn't have taken place, which is effectively saying men are not allowed to argue with women. You know exactly what you were implying.

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

All the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn't put Belo together again.

Wow. Just wow. I sincerely hope you or a member of your family never experiences bullying, because maybe then you'll realise it's not a joking matter. Until then, get some ****ing decorum.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You insinuated that because he is physically stronger than her (which is usually the case because men are stronger than women) it was not a level argument and shouldn't have taken place, which is effectively saying men are not allowed to argue with women. You know exactly what you were implying.



Wow. Just wow. I sincerely hope you or a member of your family never experiences bullying, because maybe then you'll realise it's not a joking matter. Until then, get some ****ing decorum.

I am specifically referring to this argument, not every argument from time immemorial between man and woman. He was physically intimidating during those rows. I would have been intimidated myself by him. His eyes were wild, he was spitting when shouting, he was not collected. He used this form of argument tactic against Helen and it didn't work.

If any of my family do get bullied, I'll make sure they;ll always have a wall to jump over at my house.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

I am specifically referring to this argument, not every argument from time immemorial between man and woman. He was physically intimidating during those rows. I would have been intimidated myself by him. His eyes were wild, he was spitting when shouting, he was not collected. He used this form of argument tactic against Helen and it didn't work.

And once again, in the scene when he wasn't doing that and sat in silence, she went at him and didn't stop. That is bullying. I am right and you are wrong.

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

If any of my family do get bullied, I'll make sure they;ll always have a wall to jump over at my house.

Let's hope they and you do

[ItWasJustBanter]

Arguments aren't linear. They don't start and stop and are forgotten about. He was nit picking at her all week, making up stuff that Marc had supposedly done (he didn't vote out Jade) and he was aggressive towards her.

She schooled him. She completely broke him down bit by bit and fed him to himself. She was well within her rights to too because he's an aggressive, attention seeker in dire need of anger management. How he has come out of this unscathed is beyond me.

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

All the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn't put Belo together again.

You try waaaay too hard.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

You try waaaay too hard.

Thanks mate.

[Jase.]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

Thanks mate.

Trust me mate, it wasn't a compliment.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

Trust me mate, it wasn't a compliment.

I barely know you mate. We're going to have to get to know each other a little better before a trust is formed. It's the building block of any relationship. Drop me a PM there and we'll get the ball rolling.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

You try waaaay too hard.

As dies the cow in your avi every time she throws a fake tantrum for camera time.

[iToby]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

It's not a level argument when he's physically much stronger than her and roaring at the top of his voice. She mentally destroyed him using the tools she has in her locker. I'm not saying that's right but she argued to her strengths, he argued to his and she won.

I hope he doesn't charge her too much for the space she's renting in his head. He will be haunted by her for a long time.

She struck me as more of a squatter type