[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Ask yourself why these areas are so unstable, what has happened in recent history to make those who just want to live peacefully leave?

nothing special has happened recently. africa and the middle east have been cess pools of corruption, famine, and religious violence for thousands of years.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

nothing special has happened recently. africa and the middle east have been cess pools of corruption, famine, and religious violence for thousands of years.

Well isn't that just the norm, can't families thrive in the midst of corruption and religious violence? they've been doing ok in the US for long enough
I'm meaning recent military intervention.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well isn't that just the norm, can't families thrive in the midst of corruption and religious violence? they've been doing ok in the US for long enough
I'm meaning recent military intervention.

there hasn't been any recent military intervention, in fact, actually the past few years have had the west WITHDRAW from the middle east and africa.

SO you are saying it's the LACK of military intervention in the past few years that is the problem? you want us to go BACK to war?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by lostalex

there hasn't been any recent military intervention, in fact, actually the past few years have had the west WITHDRAW from the middle east and africa.

SO you are saying it's the LACK of military intervention in the past few years that is the problem? you want us to go BACK to war?

Hand-wringers always try to lay the blame for everything at the feet of the West when in reality, Africa and the middle east, like you say, has been a bloodbath for years... decades... centuries.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Hand-wringers always try to lay the blame for everything at the feet of the West when in reality, Africa and the middle east, like you say, has been a bloodbath for years... decades... centuries.

Well most fall into two categories here liv, the hand wringers and the hand washers who accept no responsibility that the UK may be in part responsible for instability in some areas.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by lostalex

there hasn't been any recent military intervention, in fact, actually the past few years have had the west WITHDRAW from the middle east and africa.

SO you are saying it's the LACK of military intervention in the past few years that is the problem? you want us to go BACK to war?

Hasn't there..are you sure about that, within our last govt?