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The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?
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The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?
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The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?

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The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?
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The advert should be allowed imo, along with any other religion that wishes to make an advert - so long as there is nothing political or hateful in it.

It may be worth reminding that we are 'officially' a christian country, although since striving towards being more secular seems to be more popular nowadays.. and that means having all religions (and non-religions) on an equal status, not banning religion from display like france has. That would be state-atheism.
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The way some of you are treating your own atheism is the same way countries like Saudi Arabia treat Islam - forcing it upon everyone, and denying others the opportunity to display their own religion in a way that they feel comfortable, which should be allowed and encouraged in a modern democracy such as our own. It's the same people who criticise religious oppression in these countries who seem to have no problem doing it here so long as it's supportive of atheism, is that not hugely hypocritical?
So you would support an "atheism advert" in cinemas pointing out that not not everyone feels the need to pray and that not everyone believes in God? That it's OK to go against your family and your elders and say "No, actually I don't think any of this is true"? THAT would be the anti-religious parallel to this... but I very much doubt you would support it.

(Even though it's something that many children raised in religious environments desperately need to hear)
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Its hardly a level playing field. The promotion of religion around the world is hardly comparable to to the promotion of atheism,. There are TV channels in some countries entirely devoted to religious teaching, I dont see such similar promotion for atheism
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Its hardly a level playing field. The promotion of religion around the world is hardly comparable to to the promotion of atheism,. There are TV channels in some countries entirely devoted to religious teaching, I dont see such similar promotion for atheism
That's because religions tend to have teachings and stories, whereas atheism does not because of the nature of it being that you have nothing set-out to follow.
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That's because religions tend to have teachings and stories, whereas atheism does not because of the nature of it being that you have nothing set-out to follow.
Buit the teachings and stories maybe false,
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Buit the teachings and stories maybe false,
Just as they may be true. Your point?
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Just as they may be true. Your point?
My point it they are not advertised as 'maybe' true. There are whole channels dedicated to science fiction but we are aware up front that what we are seeing is entirely made up.
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My point it they are not advertised as 'maybe' true. There are whole channels dedicated to science fiction but we are aware up front that what we are seeing is entirely made up.
They're not "advertised" as anything. It is there for people who believe.

Much like any other channel is there for people who are into it, a target audience, everyone else won't bother.
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