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Old 22-11-2015, 08:13 PM #1
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I never said it wasn't a show ABOUT christianity.

That's not promotion.

We also have shows about property buying and about music and about politics and about almost everything else in the world. Television has one television show that features a church and hymns and suddenly it's a huge trailer to lure people into a cult?
Thats not what you said your previous post.

The other shows mentioned all give counter coverage to the topics they promote. They are not just a celebration of a ceremony.
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Thats not what you said your previous post.
That's EXACTLY what I said in my previous post...

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No. Broadcasting a television show about Christianity = / = promotion.
A show simply being about something does not automatically make it "promotion".

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The other shows mentioned all give counter coverage to the topics they promote. They are not just a celebration of a ceremony.
Do they? "Adele at the BBC" featured sections dedicated to other available music to buy did it?

What "counter coverage" would you have Songs of Praise feature? A lecture by an atheist about why they don't follow Christianity? What would that achieve. The show is made FOR Christians. Are they not allowed to have a show for them to enjoy?

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That's EXACTLY what I said in my previous post...
Then you proceed to contradict your own quote . I'm confused by your stance. TBH

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Do they? "Adele at the BBC" featured sections dedicated to other available music to buy did it?
Of course it didn't but you mentioned music, that is not the only music program on TV and when was the last time a show like that was on? Not the best example. I see you didnt take my advice to heart and only listed one example.
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Then you proceed to contradict your own quote . I'm confused by your stance. TBH
I didn't contradict. SOP is about Christianity but is not promoting it.

In the same way Crimewatch is about crime but is not promoting it.

Very simple.

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Of course it didn't but you mentioned music, that is not the only music program on TV
No it isn't. I don't see your point?
TV is filled with science based documentaries/shows that don't follow any religious/christian ideology and discuss things from scientific viewpoints.

Or do you require a TV show that is SPECIFICALLY and obviously anti-Christian to address the balance of Songs of Praise's shameless promotion?

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I didn't contradict. SOP is about Christianity but is not promoting it.

In the same way Crimewatch is about crime but is not promoting it.

Very simple.
Lets go over this again as I say I'm confused by your stance. Is SOP a broadcast of a religious ceremony? How is that not promoting that religion?

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TV is filled with science based documentaries/shows that don't follow any religious/christian ideology.

Or do you require a TV show that SPECIFICALLY and obviously anti-Christian to address the balance of Songs of Praise's shameless promotion?
No. I require no religious programming of any kind. That was the point I made in my very first post in this thread.
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Lets go over this again as I say I'm confused by your stance. Is SOP a broadcast of a religious ceremony? How is that not promoting that religion?
Because it's broadcasting a ceremony FOR Christians.

Anyone who is not a Christian or religious of any kind would likely not understand the majority of the mass and its meaning.

If it was means of advertising the religion in order to try and convert people to Christianity it would take a very different form.

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Because it's broadcasting a ceremony FOR Christians.

Anyone who is not a Christian or religious of any kind would likely not understand the majority of the mass and its meaning.

If it was means of advertising the religion in order to try and convert people it would take a very different form.
Here is where we have to respectfully agree to disagree. I think it is a promotion of that religion and I dont want to see any kind of religious programming on my screen.
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I didn't contradict. SOP is about Christianity but is not promoting it.

In the same way Crimewatch is about crime but is not promoting it.

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No it isn't. I don't see your point?
TV is filled with science based documentaries/shows that don't follow any religious/christian ideology and discuss things from scientific viewpoints.

Or do you require a TV show that is SPECIFICALLY and obviously anti-Christian to address the balance of Songs of Praise's shameless promotion?
I don't think you can compare Science shows to religion based shows. Science is based on facts, it's tangible and real. Religion is indoctrination. You can decide not to believe in Science but it exists regardless and is a vital part of our existence.
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I don't think you can compare Science shows to religion based shows. Science is based on facts, it's tangible and real. Religion is indoctrination. You can decide not to believe in Science but it exists regardless and is a vital part of our existence.
But that's not the point being made in my post?

I'm talking about the balance of religious and science based shows on television. Regardless of how one feels about either, it's hardly as though the BBC are promoting Christianity and not providing any programming which may contradict Christian teachings within science or other based shows is it?
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But that's not the point being made in my post?

I'm talking about the balance of religious and science based shows on television. Regardless of how one feels about either, it's hardly as though the BBC are promoting Christianity and not providing any programming which may contradict Christian teachings within science or other based shows is it?
I'm just taking issue with the idea of the balance between the two. It never made much sense to me.
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