[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It seems that people moving onto Universal Credit will lose their tax credits I guess that is child tax credit though not sure how it all works

I think that was already on the cards, and all passed ready to be implemented at the time it is due.
So in reality he still gets his tax credit cuts in the long run

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by smudgie

I think that was already on the cards, and all passed ready to be implemented at the time it is due.
So in reality he still gets his tax credit cuts in the long run

Yes Smudgie it means really he hasn't done a full U turn in tax credits at all, just a partial one so smoke and mirrors come to mind

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes Smudgie it means really he hasn't done a full U turn in tax credits at all, just a partial one so smoke and mirrors come to mind

He has become the master of conning people in my view, possibly the only thing he has excelled on in his time as Chancellor.
He is also thinking about his own leadership bid when the ditherer Cameron goes before 2020.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He has become the master of conning people in my view, possibly the only thing he has excelled on in his time as Chancellor.
He is also thinking about his own leadership bid when the ditherer Cameron goes before 2020.

I know we see things differently regularly, but I agree, they are just rebadging things. Its not a new tactic though, remember all the times Blair and Brown did similar. Announcing new spending for blah, when it was spending that had already been announced under another banner. I'm not saying this justifies it, just that all governments are guilty of it.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I know we see things differently regularly, but I agree, they are just rebadging things. Its not a new tactic though, remember all the times Blair and Brown did similar. Announcing new spending for blah, when it was spending that had already been announced under another banner. I'm not saying this justifies it, just that all governments are guilty of it.

I was never a fan of Blair and Brown either,sometimes we don't see things that differently really.
few in my family discuss Cameron with me however and I feel much about Osborne and in fact Theresa May as I do about Cameron.

I agree with all you say above.