[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

the coalition is being directed from a base in Qatar. The Saudi's are a coalition partner and Turkey are within Nato.

Each and every one of them will be being pressured to bring their house in order, but its better having them as partners than alienating them with headline making news.

But why wasn't this put to the table before we joined forces against ISIS? Why are the YPG (fighting ISIS) under a total embargo by the Turks? and why are the Turks bombing PKK forces (also fighting against ISIS)? Why is Turkey still treating wounded ISIS soldiers in Turkish hospitals? Why is Turkey buying ISIS oil?

Richard Dearlove, former M16 chief believes that Saudi and Qatar sustained funding to ISIS is the very reason for their massive growth. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...chard-dearlove

As a citizen of a country at war, I want to hear more from our government about their strategies on these so called allies of the West.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I think that's also pointed at all of us who don't agree Britain should of gone to war in Syria.

To all of those out there who believe we, along with Corbyn, are some sort of IS supporters, let it be known that we detest these murderous gangsters as much as you do. We want IS wiped off the face of the earth as much as you do and many of us, just like you, have children we will protect with whatever it takes; some of us believe, unlike you, that Western involvement in Syria could put our children in danger and not protect them from it.

We have gone into Syria under one coalition; the problem is and this could be massive, is, there is more than one coalition and the other coalition don't want the same things we want. When we start bringing Russia, Iran and possibly China into that other coalition then things start to get alarmingly complicated.

We all held our breath when a member of our coalition shot down a jet from the other coalition. Could this be the spark for the end of days? fortunately not but its early days and any of us who accept this bombing campaign must also accept that this conflict could lead directly into world war 3. Perhaps that's scaremongering but from where I'm sitting, the possibility of that is much bigger than the West being overrun with ISIS terrorists.

What we have to ask ourselves is this....With all the US military mite over the past 18 months...the 57,000 sorties and 9,000 air strikes that have rained down from the skies upon Syria, why have they barely touched that evil shadow?.

Excellent post and no scaremongering at all I would say.
After all our PM and therefore we as the UK,as his mast placed at as well as IS getting rid of Assad and his regime.
Now that is 'not' the Russian ideal at all and there we are with Russia in this conflict.
Possibly treading on each others toes and in all conflicts, accidents or geared accidents can happen.

I think you raise brilliant points every time you post.
What a coup for IS if because of them drawing all these powers into the region and in to the action too,if something happened to then turn the superpowers on each other.

Brilliant post again Demolition Red,and you are in my view fully right in your opening line too which I have put in bold.
Great post,one that should make many think,it certainly has made me again.

[DemolitionRed]

Thanks Joey but I doubt my post will have people thinking any deeper than Cameron's warning of impending invasion and death. Instead of reading alarmist headlines and listening to Cameron's voice to the nation that have us all gripped in fear, it pays to be realistic about all possible outcomes.

[bots]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

But why wasn't this put to the table before we joined forces against ISIS? Why are the YPG (fighting ISIS) under a total embargo by the Turks? and why are the Turks bombing PKK forces (also fighting against ISIS)? Why is Turkey still treating wounded ISIS soldiers in Turkish hospitals? Why is Turkey buying ISIS oil?

Richard Dearlove, former M16 chief believes that Saudi and Qatar sustained funding to ISIS is the very reason for their massive growth. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...chard-dearlove

As a citizen of a country at war, I want to hear more from our government about their strategies on these so called allies of the West.

I don't disagree with your points at all. They are all perfectly valid. We all know these things are not black and white. We have direct lines of communication with each of them. In those circumstances the diplomatic services should and will be at full throttle. You don't alienate those who are currently supporting you, however flimsy that support may be. You work at diplomatic solutions.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Thanks Joey but I doubt my post will have people thinking any deeper than Cameron's warning of impending invasion and death. Instead of reading alarmist headlines and listening to Cameron's voice to the nation that have us all gripped in fear, it pays to be realistic about all possible outcomes.

It does indeed and that's is also what needed to be considered as to the vote for action too.
With so many as you said supposedly on the same side but not really except that all want IS eradicated.

It will be easy to sleepwalk into possibly a greater conflict.
All we have really heard from the PM since the vote is the action is being taken and now, that is going to be a long involvement there.
Now I am flung back to against the action rather than for it.

Thank all powers that be I was not one to help make the decision because I get more wary and unsure that the right thing has even been done.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Excellent post and no scaremongering at all I would say.
After all our PM and therefore we as the UK,as his mast placed at as well as IS getting rid of Assad and his regime.
Now that is 'not' the Russian ideal at all and there we are with Russia in this conflict.
Possibly treading on each others toes and in all conflicts, accidents or geared accidents can happen.

I think you raise brilliant points every time you post.
What a coup for IS if because of them drawing all these powers into the region and in to the action too,if something happened to then turn the superpowers on each other.

Brilliant post again Demolition Red,and you are in my view fully right in your opening line too which I have put in bold.
Great post,one that should make many think,it certainly has made me again.

I don't disagree with any of that and have made threads saying the same.It is a very complex situation.I still feel that fighting IS is much better than not.

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