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Old 06-12-2015, 06:54 PM #1
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Ohhh also, just to add, I am pro-indy Scottish and I am represented by an SNP MP, all of whom voted against this action. So not actually a traitor by any description . (Which is frankly a ludicrous statement to be making in the first place by the way, and pretty much loses you all credibility).

I just sadly live in an occupied country. Voluntarily occupied, at that. Because of people lapping up government scaremongering and ****. I'm starting to see a pattern emerging I think...
In my opinion, the only thing the SNP really care about (in whatever political argument) is getting Scotland to eventually be an independent country. In 2013 Alex Salmond backed military action in Syria - http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...mond-1-3071423

Their position now is about domestic politics, and sowing more division between Scotland and the UK.

I don't think Scotland is an occupied country in any sense.
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In my opinion, the only thing the SNP really care about (in whatever political argument) is getting Scotland to eventually be an independent country. In 2013 Alex Salmond backed military action in Syria - http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...mond-1-3071423

Their position now is about domestic politics, and sowing more division between Scotland and the UK.

I don't think Scotland is an occupied country in any sense.
That's not the point, I'm not an SNP fanboy and likely would not have voted for the SNP in an independent Scotland.

The only point was that I did not vote for those who voted for war, therefore, the argument that "we vote for people to represent us and should then follow their decisions" is invalid; the people who I voted for to represent me did not vote for war, and therefore, I do not have to accept the decisions of people who were voted into power by others. I don't believe in majority rule, I don't particularly believe in democracy. I think it's the best system we currently can realistically have, but that does not make it a "good system". But I am an individualist and, no, I don't believe that anyone has to accept anything at all just because "the folks that most people voted for are choosing it". What nonsense.
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In my opinion, the only thing the SNP really care about (in whatever political argument) is getting Scotland to eventually be an independent country. In 2013 Alex Salmond backed military action in Syria - http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...mond-1-3071423

Their position now is about domestic politics, and sowing more division between Scotland and the UK.

I don't think Scotland is an occupied country in any sense.
'The First Minister said Scottish MPs at Westminster backed the possibility of action through the UN - if the use of chemical weapons had been proved by weapons inspectors.'

Slight difference there, and that was a while ago are people not allowed to amend their thinking based on evidence and information?
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In my opinion, the only thing the SNP really care about (in whatever political argument) is getting Scotland to eventually be an independent country. In 2013 Alex Salmond backed military action in Syria - http://www.scotsman.com/news/politic...mond-1-3071423

Their position now is about domestic politics, and sowing more division between Scotland and the UK.

I don't think Scotland is an occupied country in any sense.
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