[Benjamin]

She is dead, I'm sorry if that sounds cruel but they need to start moving on from their mistake.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by God

She is dead, I'm sorry if that sounds cruel but they need to start moving on from their mistake.

I'm starting to think this too, as harsh as it sounds.

[MB.]

I think a lot of people were thinking it in 2007

[Northern Monkey]

Old news now.They need to move on and stop trying to get in the media.Why do we need to know about their unhealthy habbits at Christmas.

[Jake.]

hopefully they don't get stolen as well

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

or

there is not much you can do if a predatory paedophile targets your child

they were unlucky

No Madeleine was, very unlucky indeed to have two parents who would ever dream of leaving her aged 3 and two babies in an unlocked ground floor apartment while they went out to dinner. Far too far away to be able to hear or see anything of that apartment. How on earth could any parent do anything so neglectful and without caring about the safety and welfare of such very young children?
If they'd been on a lower "social level" I'm pretty sure the reaction to and consequences of such gross neglect and it's horrific outcome would have been far more severe.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by anne666

No Madeleine was, very unlucky indeed to have two parents who would ever dream of leaving her aged 3 and two babies in an unlocked ground floor apartment while they went out to dinner. Far too far away to be able to hear or see anything of that apartment. How on earth could any parent do anything so neglectful and without caring about the safety and welfare of such very young children?
If they'd been on a lower "social level" I'm pretty sure the reaction to and consequences of such gross neglect and it's horrific outcome would have been far more severe.

If a chav couple went on holiday and left their kids in the hotel while they went out to drink alcopops and dance the night away, they would be slaughtered in the press. Absolutely slaughtered.

Two doctors? Did nothing wrong, just unlucky.

I do feel for them (if the story of them not knowing what happened to her is true... which I am far from convinced of) BUT I feel much worse for the poor girl who was utterly failed, on many levels.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

If a chav couple went on holiday and left their kids in the hotel while they went out to drink alcopops and dance the night away, they would be slaughtered in the press. Absolutely slaughtered.

Two doctors? Did nothing wrong, just unlucky.

I do feel for them (if the story of them not knowing what happened to her is true... which I am far from convinced of) BUT I feel much worse for the poor girl who was utterly failed, on many levels.

Very True.We went to Butlins when my eldest was three and i would never ever have dreamed of leaving him alone in our appartment.I would'nt even consider it in this country.Never mind abroad.

[anne666]

[QUOTE=Toy Santa;8374935]If a chav couple went on holiday and left their kids in the hotel while they went out to drink alcopops and dance the night away, they would be slaughtered in the press. Absolutely slaughtered.

Two doctors? Did nothing wrong, just unlucky.

I do feel for them (if the story of them not knowing what happened to her is true... which I am far from convinced of) BUT I feel much worse for the poor girl who was utterly failed, on many levels[/B].

If it had been a hotel it may have been a little safer. They left three very young children in an unlocked ground floor apartment, which wasn't even in their view and a good distance away. That poor child could have got out of there herself. I think the baby twins were in cots but what does that guarantee?

I agree with you. There are far too many unanswered questions and contradictions. Without a proper unhampered investigation the truth will never be known.

[T*]

Originally Posted by FrostyChique

"neglect" they hardly neglected her?

Leaving her home alone is NEGLECT
She only checked every 30 minutes, which if you know children is honestly a long time..
Also letting someone they met on holiday to check on her (and he didn't even check if she was there) is again, neglect.

[T*]

[QUOTE=anne666;8374976]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

If a chav couple went on holiday and left their kids in the hotel while they went out to drink alcopops and dance the night away, they would be slaughtered in the press. Absolutely slaughtered.



Two doctors? Did nothing wrong, just unlucky.



I do feel for them (if the story of them not knowing what happened to her is true... which I am far from convinced of) BUT I feel much worse for the poor girl who was utterly failed, on many levels[/B].



If it had been a hotel it may have been a little safer. They left three very young children in an unlocked ground floor apartment, which wasn't even in their view and a good distance away. That poor child could have got out of there herself. I think the baby twins were in cots but what does that guarantee?



I agree with you. There are far too many unanswered questions and contradictions. Without a proper unhampered investigation the truth will never be known.

I agree with this

[arista]

The Problem for those 2 Doctors
is the Window
and being on the ground Floor.

But there are so many New Missing children
and I hate the way these 2 Doctors get all the Support
and Media.
But there child was never found alive.

So Move On.

[arista]

Originally Posted by God

She is dead, I'm sorry if that sounds cruel but they need to start moving on from their mistake.

Fair Point

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

If a chav couple went on holiday and left their kids in the hotel while they went out to drink alcopops and dance the night away, they would be slaughtered in the press. Absolutely slaughtered.

Two doctors? Did nothing wrong, just unlucky.

I do feel for them (if the story of them not knowing what happened to her is true... which I am far from convinced of) BUT I feel much worse for the poor girl who was utterly failed, on many levels.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by FrostyChique

"neglect" they hardly neglected her?

Eh?! Even those who don't think the parents have anything to do with the disappearance agree that they did indeed neglect her that night. Whether it was regular, we don't know. But since its been admitted that they left the kids alone every night of that holiday (bar one)...its pretty much fact that they neglected them during the holiday

[Z]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

every child is priceless

What if she was sold into slavery?

[Z]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

If a chav couple went on holiday and left their kids in the hotel while they went out to drink alcopops and dance the night away, they would be slaughtered in the press. Absolutely slaughtered.

Two doctors? Did nothing wrong, just unlucky.

I do feel for them (if the story of them not knowing what happened to her is true... which I am far from convinced of) BUT I feel much worse for the poor girl who was utterly failed, on many levels.

Sums it up.

I still think they should have been jailed for something - wasting police time, child neglect... did they use public funds on this? I don't know, if so then for that too. You don't leave a toddler and two babies alone in an unlocked villa while you go out for dinner with people you only met on holiday and allow some of those strangers to be alone with your children... just moronic on so many levels. So, if it was an honest mistake then I feel bad for them for their sheer idiocy and the levels of hatred they've gotten from the public, but I find it hard to accept their viewpoint that they did nothing wrong. I really hope she's dead because I hate to think the sheer horror that's been inflicted on her if she's still alive... adopted by a kind family unaware of where she came from, she was not.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Zeesus

I really hope she's dead

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Mistletom*

Leaving her home alone is NEGLECT
She only checked every 30 minutes, which if you know children is honestly a long time..
Also letting someone they met on holiday to check on her (and he didn't even check if she was there) is again, neglect.

Of course it's neglect, even if they were actually checked every 30 minutes. Not locking the door of a ground floor apartment is also neglect.
Their sheer irresponsibility and from two medical professionals is shocking.
As was their response from the start.
http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/

It would most certainly be treated as neglect in the UK too
https://www.nspcc.org.uk/preventing-...ld-home-alone/

[Denver]

Originally Posted by FrostyChique

"neglect" they hardly neglected her?

If you think leaving your very young children alone why you go out getting pissed with your mates is fine then I hope you never become a parent.

If a normal parent without the money to fall back on left their child for 5 minutes the child would be taken off them and they would probably be arrested for neglecting their child.

The McCanns no more then they are letting on.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Donder Kebab

If you think leaving your very young children alone why you go out getting pissed with your mates is fine then I hope you never become a parent.

If a normal parent without the money to fall back on left their child for 5 minutes the child would be taken off them and they would probably be arrested for neglecting their child.

The McCanns no more then they are letting on.

I didn't agree with the word "neglect" I didn't say I agreed with what they did, since neglect is much more serious.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Cameltoe and Wine

ffs

[Denver]

Originally Posted by FrostyChique

I didn't agree with the word "neglect" I didn't say I agreed with what they did, since neglect is much more serious.

They neglected their child to go and have fun.

They are to blame for their child going missing and I hope that haunts them for the rest of their lives

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by FrostyChique

I didn't agree with the word "neglect" I didn't say I agreed with what they did, since neglect is much more serious.

Neglect is a very accurate description of what they did.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

If a chav couple went on holiday and left their kids in the hotel while they went out to drink alcopops and dance the night away, they would be slaughtered in the press. Absolutely slaughtered.

Two doctors? Did nothing wrong, just unlucky.

I do feel for them (if the story of them not knowing what happened to her is true... which I am far from convinced of) BUT I feel much worse for the poor girl who was utterly failed, on many levels.

People might also say they don't deserve to have children. I'd agree TBH.