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Originally Posted by Josy

Well tbf here Sam there was really no need for you to bring up sexuality and to such a massive extent in your OP, Rylan is a terrible presenter I agree with you on that but that has nothing at all to do with him being gay, I just don't see the need for it to be flung in there as if it's adding to whatever kind of problem you think the show has.

Winston's comment is what sparked debate, he said the words that are being discussed, no one else.

If you say stuff like this:



People are certainly going to think you have a problem with gay people, I wouldn't even know where to start with having a discussion with you about that above comment because if you 'don't have a problem with gays' then what on earth do you mean with that quote?

Firstly let me say for the umpteenth time I DO NOT HAVE ISSUES WITH GAY PEOPLE. I HAVE A GAY PERSON IN MY FAMILY WHOM I LOVE DEARLY. But my point is that before Rylan presented BOTS, there was never any outwardly uncomfortable issues with gay issues. Nowadays we get innuendos, problems, homophobic issues and overtly and uncomfortable to watch sexual acts promoted by a gay man and I for one hate it.

If we had a straight man presenting Bots and he constantly fondled his co presenters in a sexual way like Rylan does with Emma and he gyrated in such a way that portrayed a sexual act, would he last long. I think not, so why can Rylan do it when it offends a certain section of the GBP.

My point is simple, whats good for the goose should be good for the gander and being the way he is, is effectively shoving unsavoury issues down the throats of other minorities or majorities unnecessarily. This forum has gays and straights in equal amounts but when a young gay person gets into a fight with an older straight person, it is viewed a politically incorrect but when its the other way round its a prick or bigot arguing archaic views.

Why is evry issue from old to gay viewed as homophobic. It might be a simple case of principles being used in the wrong way. Nobody h=likes the race card, I don't like the homophobic card and when \I voice my opinion I am regarded as a creep and bigot which I am not.