[Dominic]

I mean the twist is unfair, but it saved Chloe from eviction and secured her winning over 5 trashy males so I'm glad

[Jason.]

I personally think Danielle being evicted without a public vote by two irrelevant housemates who'd only been in for 4 days a year earlier was more unfair than Sam's Cashbomb eviction thingymaflop

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by zakman440

Both have their pros/cons, so I'd like both to be offered tbh.

How would having both work ?

Like, the =/- game or something?

[Dominic]

Justice for Virgin queen Dani </3

[joeysteele]

It's always vote to save for me.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's always vote to save for me.

Same for me.

I don't like the negative vibe VTE creates.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I personally think Danielle being evicted without a public vote by two irrelevant housemates who'd only been in for 4 days a year earlier was more unfair than Sam's Cashbomb eviction thingymaflop

I think they were both as bad as each other - the principle is the same. Same with Marlon.

[zakman440]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How would having both work ?

Like, the =/- game or something?

In the final tally a housemates save votes are subtracted from their evict votes.Big Brother Australia have done this successfully before.

[reece(:]

Danielle's is the most unfair eviction of all time, especially considering two non entities culled her.

[Jason.]

Marlon would've been nominated and out that week had it been a normal eviction with a VTE public vote. Him pressing the button cost him I think. So again, the only difference his none public vote eviction made was him leaving 4 days earlier

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Marlon would've been nominated and out that week had it been a normal eviction with a VTE public vote. Him pressing the button cost him I think. So again, the only difference his none public vote eviction made was him leaving 4 days earlier

This is all speculation though. I think no one should go without a public vote under any circumstances.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by TomC

But VTE rewards dullness as BB16 beautifully demonstrated! And tbf, people won't vote for horrible people in a VTS.

They do all the time. This is why someone like Katie Hopkins can get so close to winning.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jason.

Danielle being evicted

Good times.

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by zakman440

In the final tally a housemates save votes are subtracted from their evict votes.Big Brother Australia have done this successfully before.

This would be a very interesting system. But I reckon it would be hard to get the scum out. Someone like Marc would get the most evict votes, but he also gets the save votes, which makes his votes neutral.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

They do all the time. This is why someone like Katie Hopkins can get so close to winning.

Katie Hopkins was well-liked, hence why she came so close to winning. That sounds fair enough to me.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

Katie Hopkins was well-liked, hence why she came so close to winning. That sounds fair enough to me.

Exactly, well liked, even though she was a despicable human being.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Exactly, well liked, even though she was a despicable human being.

But if enough people thought that they wouldn't have voted for her and she would have gone much sooner. The same principle in reverse applies to VTE except VTE boots out the interesting ones.

[Samm]

VTS but both have negatives

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

But if enough people thought that they wouldn't have voted for her and she would have gone much sooner. The same principle in reverse applies to VTE except VTE boots out the interesting ones.

No because many people who agreed she was vile would have voted to save her for entertainment.

You're jumping to the conclusion that people vote based on who they "like" or "dislike" as people. It doesn't always work like that.

I hated Jade as a person in BB16 but she was a decent housemate for the TV she made.

[Jason.]

People won't vote for horrible people in a VTS

80% of people voted to save a man who threatened to shove an epilator up a woman's vagina, whilst also threatening to knock that same woman out over somebody who's only crime was just arguing with that same woman the week she was up.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by TomC

What do you mean? Harry, Sam, Marc, Simon, Eileen and Jade would have made the best finalists and they all, apart from Sam and perhaps Eileen went as a result of VTE.

yeeeeah if you think Marc, Sam, and Simon were the crux of the entertainment in BB16 then that speaks for itself

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No because many people who agreed she was vile would have voted to save her for entertainment.

You're jumping to the conclusion that people vote based on who they "like" or "dislike" as people. It doesn't always work like that.

I hated Jade as a person in BB16 but she was a decent housemate for the TV she made.

So you voted for Jade? The thing is with VTS you have to do something positive to stay, whereas with VTE you don't have to do anything.

Originally Posted by Jason.

80% of people voted to save a man who threatened to shove an epilator up a woman's vagina, whilst also threatening to knock that same woman out over somebody who's only crime was just arguing with that same woman the week she was up.

I've not seen that series so I can't comment.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

yeeeeah if you think Marc, Sam, and Simon were the crux of the entertainment in BB16 then that speaks for itself

What does it speak for? It's my personal taste.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

So you voted for Jade?

No. I wouldn't waste a penny on this sh*te.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No. I wouldn't waste a penny on this sh*te.

Fair enough

But that doesn't prove your point then.