[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why are there so many provisos to being in a religion then?
It's a given we're not perfect, yet I get the feeling that having a religion gives many a get out of jail (or hell) free card, allowing many to be total flakes in the vain hope that the cloak of religion is enough to cover any and all flaws.

Eh?

Whether individuals don't follow a religion but "hope" that calling themselves a Christian or the fact they go to church every Sunday will save them "just in case" has nothing to do with the religions themselves.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Eh?

Whether individuals don't follow a religion but "hope" that calling themselves a Christian or the fact they go to church every Sunday will save them "just in case" has nothing to do with the religions themselves.

Do you really want to dance with me too? Ok put your tap shoes on Billy Elliot.

I think religions were specifically devised for people just like that.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Do you really want to dance with me too? Ok put your tap shoes on Billy Elliot.

I'm not quite sure whether you take yourself just that seriously or it's a bad joke.

I'll let you confirm before I respond.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think religions were specifically devised for people just like that.

"Yeah, let's create a religion with strict moral codes and some even with clothing and food restrictions just so people can not follow them."

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I'm not quite sure whether you take yourself just that seriously or it's a bad joke.

I'll let you confirm before I respond.

Um, Joke?... hehe



"Yeah, let's create a religion with strict moral codes and some even with clothing and food restrictions just so people can not follow them."

Bingo, yes that's exactly what I think, and many do follow them, millions and millions.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Eh?

Whether individuals don't follow a religion but "hope" that calling themselves a Christian or the fact they go to church every Sunday will save them "just in case" has nothing to do with the religions themselves.

That's not true though is it. Many have died in the name of a religion because they have been promised eternal salvation in the promised land, therefore they are prepared to do anything, risk anything in the name of that religion knowing all will be fine and dandy in the end

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Faith, or lack of it, is such a personal thing. Those with faith will never be able to explain it to those without and vice versa. Some people are just scientifically minded and therefore cannot grasp the idea of am omnipresent being that is invisible but those who do believe just "know" there is something there. Rubbishing other people's views won't change anyone's minds on either side in my opinion.

Absolutely 100% spot on Annie. But then again, L.T. KNOWS this. We have all danced this dance so many times before.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Faith, or lack of it, is such a personal thing. Those with faith will never be able to explain it to those without and vice versa. Some people are just scientifically minded and therefore cannot grasp the idea of am omnipresent being that is invisible but those who do believe just "know" there is something there. Rubbishing other people's views won't change anyone's minds on either side in my opinion.

Very well said, Annie

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Do you really want to dance with me too? Ok put your tap shoes on Billy Elliot.

I think religions were specifically devised for people just like that.

I don't know just how to say this without risking being infracted or worse when some anonymous soul complains to the mods for no reason - But I just DO NOT UNDERSTAND just WHAT you are actually saying half the time.

Your posts always seem to criticise, deride, or deny others viewpoints, but you seldom actually ever state just WHAT your actual viewpoint really is.

Do you believe in God?

Do you really believe that ALL religions were 'manufactured' by sinister people for the sole purpose of having 'power' and 'control' of other people?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Most likely the way we look. Legs and face and all that good stuff. He doesn't mean that we are the same as him in ability.

You sound like his PA

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by wannashag

You sound like his PA

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

If you're going to try and pick apart religion/beliefs then at least get some understanding of them first.

John 10. 30

Ihave a far greater understanding of the Bible than you morsh

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I don't know just how to say this without risking being infracted or worse when some anonymous soul complains to the mods for no reason - But I just DO NOT UNDERSTAND just WHAT you are actually saying half the time.

Your posts always seem to criticise, deride, or deny others viewpoints, but you seldom actually ever state just WHAT your actual viewpoint really is.

Do you believe in God?

Do you really believe that ALL religions were 'manufactured' by sinister people for the sole purpose of having 'power' and 'control' of other people?

Not true.
Yes.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Bingo, yes that's exactly what I think, and many do follow them, millions and millions.

Yes many do follow them. Many of them very strict followers too.

So why would the religions themselves want "flaky followers"?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

John 10. 30

Ihave a far greater understanding of the Bible than you morsh

Not if you can't understand the meaning of the Holy Trinity bab

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Also, if god is invisible and he made us in his image, then why aren't we invisible too?

Who even said he is invisible?

The housemates in Big Brother can't actually SEE Big Brother, does that make him invisible?

No, because he/she don't show themselves.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

That's not true though is it. Many have died in the name of a religion because they have been promised eternal salvation in the promised land, therefore they are prepared to do anything, risk anything in the name of that religion knowing all will be fine and dandy in the end

What's not true?

Your post has next to nothing to do with mine.

There are extremists and flaky followers and people in the middle, not sure what you're getting at.

[Alf]

Big bearded toga wearing killjoy.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Who even said he is invisible?

The housemates in Big Brother can't actually SEE Big Brother, does that make him invisible?

No, because he/she don't show themselves.

The OP

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not if you can't understand the meaning of the Holy Trinity bab

I do know the vague illogical holy trinity arguments but I wanted to see if our resident religionists could kd perhaps summarise. I quickly found out they could not

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I do know the vague illogical holy trinity arguments but I wanted to see if our resident religionists could kd perhaps summarise. I quickly found out they could not

Why would you want to "see" if religious people could summarise something you already know the answer to?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

The OP

Is LT God now?

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Is LT God now?

No but he posed the theoretical question which I was commenting on

(Although LT being god would explain most of the worlds problems, so... )

[Jamie89]

I'm joking btw LT

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes many do follow them. Many of them very strict followers too.

So why would the religions themselves want "flaky followers"?

Did I say they wanted flakey followers?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by wannashag

You sound like his PA

I would love that. Use me, oh lord. Let me bask in all your glory and your strength. Amen.