[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

but did david bowie get a prayer?

..I'm not sure I get an analogy there, the tweet seemed to be a wishing well of, of Dawkins with his stroke but you wouldn't give any well wishes to someone who is dead..I guess you could say..(not you specifically..)...does the CoE do that with everyone, like did they do it with Michael Schumacher for instance, would be a better likening to, for me..?..well obviously we don't know for sure/they may have done but with Dawkins specifically...I personally would say, if it has only been him as a 'singling out', if you like...then it would be more of a well wish/gesture of a completely opposing view to religion, as a putting aside and perspective etc../whatever our beliefs, we are all as one...I guess an analogy I would use there as well would be with things that touch our lives personally/very sad things that have happened to forum members and whether 'friends' or 'enemies' as in completely opposing thoughts and those old ding dongs on the forum, it's all put aside when something awful happens...'we don't agree/we completely disagree but that's not a personal thing and I wish you well'....


..yeah we could analyse/scrutinise/look for 'intent' etc, in the tweet, we can do that...but if we do that, then there's no point in moaning about a rubbish/negative world that we live in because we're just being a part of that negativity/cynicism...or we can just look at it as a positive and well meaning gesture/nothing more, nothing less....

[kirklancaster]

He is a non-believer and is ill. Therefore he has no one to pray to. So what is so wrong with people of a charitable and caring disposition - who believe in 'Love Thine Enemy' praying ON HIS BEHALF to a God who they believe in and he does not?

Perhaps Dorkins needs a little help if his prayers to Darwin and 'Science' ain't working.

I regularly include L.T. in my prayers.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm not sure I get an analogy there, the tweet seemed to be a wishing well of, of Dawkins with his stroke but you wouldn't give any well wishes to someone who is dead..I guess you could say..(not you specifically..)...does the CoE do that with everyone, like did they do it with Michael Schumacher for instance, would be a better likening to, for me..?..well obviously we don't know for sure/they may have done but with Dawkins specifically...I personally would say, if it has only been him as a 'singling out', if you like...then it would be more of a well wish/gesture of a completely opposing view to religion, as a putting aside and perspective etc../whatever our beliefs, we are all as one...I guess an analogy I would use there as well would be with things that touch our lives personally/very sad things that have happened to forum members and whether 'friends' or 'enemies' as in completely opposing thoughts and those old ding dongs on the forum, it's all put aside when something awful happens...'we don't agree/we completely disagree but that's not a personal thing and I wish you well'....


..yeah we could analyse/scrutinise/look for 'intent' etc, in the tweet, we can do that...but if we do that, then there's no point in moaning about a rubbish/negative world that we live in because we're just being a part of that negativity/cynicism...or we can just look at it as a positive and well meaning gesture/nothing more, nothing less....

Going to have to call that out. In my experience that hasn't happened.
Won't divulge on here and risk derailing the thread but I'll explain if you like via PM.
Is cynicism negative, always? I don't feel it is. The best the CofE get from me is the benefit of the doubt.