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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Apple have experts working around the clock stopping criminal hackers having access to our information. Once they hand a master key over to UK government agents, they no longer have the power to stop expert criminals getting to our information. It becomes a technology battle because criminal hackers are just as clever as the ones presently working round the clock to stopping them.

This. People seem to be confused and think that people have an issue here with the authorities "invading terrorists privacy". No... any phone like that they hack into for infor will belong either to a dead person or one convicted of criminal activity, in which case their right to privacy is irrelevant.

Where the problem lies, is in making the jump from "it's OK for the authorities to try to access that information" and, "the phone manufacturers should PROVIDE the authorities with back-door security access to ALL phones, just incase".

There is a HUGE difference here.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This. People seem to be confused and think that people have an issue here with the authorities "invading terrorists privacy". No... any phone like that they hack into for infor will belong either to a dead person or one convicted of criminal activity, in which case their right to privacy is irrelevant.

Where the problem lies, is in making the jump from "it's OK for the authorities to try to access that information" and, "the phone manufacturers should PROVIDE the authorities with back-door security access to ALL phones, just incase".

There is a HUGE difference here.

I don't think our government have a clue about the complex implications behind opening a back door to internet security TS.

The investigatory laws that were somehow passed back in 2000 weren’t just used on dangerous criminal suspects but by local councils on parents trying to get their kids into schools out of their local catchment area and people watching live stream tv on their computers without a tv licence. When the **** eventually hit the fan and these new surveillance powers came into question, they discovered that only 1 per cent of applications to access data was requested for terrorist offenders, even after 9/11.

This isn’t about a war on terror, this is about having the right to snoop and collect information on the British public. Its about catching people for minor offences and its about predicting future elections and other political purposes. People pipe on about 'freedom of speech'...well if this new snooping charter is allowed to infringe on our liberty, then we will be three giant steps forward into losing our freedom of speech.

I for one, do not want to live in a police state and I don't believe for a moment that this British government is its peoples protectorate. Anyone who has taken the time to study neoliberal ideology will know that 'end game' is totalitarianism and so this proposed new snooping law is the golden egg that Cameron has been desperate to establish whilst he's PM.

Time to get rid of these neoliberal conservatives and take conservatism back to its classical routes.