[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Vardy's better than Owen.

What?

I totally disagree, in-fact I'll tell you right now that Owen is the best English player I've ever seen in my lifetime, better than Gascoigne, better than Barnes, better than Shearer, better than Rooney.

At 17 he was just as good as Pele was when he was 17, between the age of 17 and 22 before he started to pick up bad injury's, Owen was the best player in the World, above Brazilian Ronaldo.

Remember the goal against Argentina, what about the Hat-trick in Germany or the lethal finish in the World cup quarter final against Brazil or the Owen Cup final, as an Arsenal fan I'm sure you remember that.

Owen played for Liverpool, Real Madrid and Manchester United, 3 of the Worlds biggest clubs. Vardy's had a good season and half for Leicester, let's not get carried away.

Twice Premier league golden boot winner, Premier League player of the year winner and a Ballon d'Or winner. He also won the BBC sports personality of the year at the age of 18.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Alf

What?

I totally disagree, in-fact I'll tell you right now that Owen is the best English player I've ever seen in my lifetime, better than Gascoigne, better than Barnes, better than Shearer, better than Rooney.

At 17 he was just as good as Pele was when he was 17, between the age of 17 and 22 before he started to pick up bad injury's, Owen was the best player in the World, above Brazilian Ronaldo.

Remember the goal against Argentina, what about the Hat-trick in Germany or the lethal finish in the World cup quarter final against Brazil or the Owen Cup final, as an Arsenal fan I'm sure you remember that.

Owen played for Liverpool, Real Madrid and Manchester United, 3 of the Worlds biggest clubs. Vardy's had a good season and half for Leicester, let's not get carried away.

Twice Premier league golden boot winner, Premier League player of the year winner and a Ballon d'Or winner. He also won the BBC sports personality of the year at the age of 18.

Bib: now I know you are a pi$$ taker. And to think you had me fooled with the sincerity of your posts.

I know I say this every week and am wrong but I do think the LCFC title challenge will go wrong (Spurs will win) and I think this West Ham game will be the beginning of the end of Leicester's dreams.

There's a bizarre rumour flying around that LEICESTER are trying to lure ex Chile manager Jorge Sampaoli (who won Copa America last year) to be another Ranieri's no 2 /assistant. Which would be a crazy audacious coup as he was initially the first choice favourite to replace Mourinho at Chelsea but Abromovic was worried at his lack of English (Conte knows basic English and not nothing as widely reported). If true this is as crazy as them trying to get to Ronaldinho in January.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Bib: now I know you are a pi$$ taker. And to think you had me fooled with the sincerity of your posts.

Not at all, Owen was terrorising and ripping apart defences in the best league in the World at 17, what league was Pele playing in at that age? Ok he happened to be in a World cup winning team at 17 (and played his part), but individually on a weekly basis, he wasn't doing what Owen was.

Owen's was 18 when he got to play in the World cup and showed the World what he's all about, getting in to the team of the tournament.

I understand your shock at me comparing Owen to the great Pele, but don't underestimate how good Owen was in his early career.

[alex_front2]

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Originally Posted by Alf

Not at all, Owen was terrorising and ripping apart defences in the best league in the World at 17, what league was Pele playing in at that age? Ok he happened to be in a World cup winning team at 17 (and played his part), but individually on a weekly basis, he wasn't doing what Owen was.

Owen's was 18 when he got to play in the World cup and showed the World what he's all about, getting in to the team of the tournament.

I understand your shock at me comparing Owen to the great Pele, but don't underestimate how good Owen was in his early career.

Oh trust me I know exactly how "good " Owen was as an 17/18 year old and he was not fit to lace Pele's third pair of boots*. He was a kid who did well, was better than the other English kids and showed potential. Nothibg more nothing less.To compare him to the greatest player of all time, a world cup winner at 17, three time winner (would have been 4 had he not got injured in 1966, sorry England) is quite frankly an insult.

It's the same sort of mentality which compares lightweight mediocrity Sharapova to greatness Serena, Garcia to Tiger Woods, Tyson Fury to Tyson, Joe Root to Brian Lara, average voiced Adele to vocal goddess Aretha Franklin. Just plain wrong and 100% offensive. Hmmmmmmmmm.



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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

Oh trust me I know exactly how "good " Owen was as an 17/18 year old and he was not fit to lace Pele's third pair of boots*. He was a kid who did well, was better than the other English kids and showed potential. Nothibg more nothing less.To compare him to the greatest player of all time, a world cup winner at 17, three time winner (would have been 4 had he not got injured in 1966, sorry England) is quite frankly an insult.

It's the same sort of mentality which compares lightweight mediocrity Sharapova to greatness Serena, Garcia to Tiger Woods, Tyson Fury to Tyson, Joe Root to Brian Lara, average voiced Adele to vocal goddess Aretha Franklin. Just plain wrong and 100% offensive. Hmmmmmmmmm.



* cleats to our USA chums

I like Adele's voice more, less shouting and more singing from her imo.

But back on topic Owen would've been a Pele for England if he hadn't have suffered constant injuries.

[alex_front2]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I like Adele's voice more, less shouting and more singing from her imo.

But back on topic Owen would've been a Pele for England if he hadn't have suffered constant injuries.

No offence but your obviously a pop fan rather than a soul, rnb , music of black origins fans.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by alex_front2

No offence but your obviously a pop fan rather than a soul, rnb , music of black origins fans.

Everybody likes Pop Music, they're lying if they're saying otherwise as there's so many different styles of Pop Music around it's hard to dislike them all.

But no I'm more of a Rock/Indie/Folk person tbh, I also don't mind Reggae and proper R&B and not just the ones being tagged as R&B because they're black.

Apart from Rock though I do tend to like more gentle singing voices more than the constantly loud ones as my problem with the loud singers is that it stops becoming a song and more of just showing off how loud you can sing.