[joeysteele]

All I will say is the out organisations have tried to argue there are Countries we can easily deal with as well as having some trade agreement with the EU if the UK leaves

One Country mentioned a few times was the USA, now for me I have no problem at all with the leader of the USA saying if that is really the case or not.
Which is what Obama has done.

Had he been saying something like, of course the USA is here and will give a good trading deal to the UK, his comments would have been very much welcomed I think by the out organisation.
The out organisation first brought the USA into the debate by citing it as one of the Nations we would easily get a trading deal with
Which has been proven to be untrue by the USA's current President and backed up by the person likely to succeed him too.

I see nothing wrong at all in the president putting that info and fact out there in the slightest.

I only wish we would hear from the out organisation any major Nations that are prepared to go on the record as stating clearly they will quickly give really 'good' trading deals to the UK if it votes to leave the EU.
Rather than just hoping many will and with no back up even on that hope.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

All I will say is the out organisations have tried to argue there are Countries we can easily deal with as well as having some trade agreement with the EU if the UK leaves

One Country mentioned a few times was the USA, now for me I have no problem at all with the leader of the USA saying if that is really the case or not.
Which is what Obama has done.

Had he been saying something like, of course the USA is here and will give a good trading deal to the UK, his comments would have been very much welcomed I think by the out organisation.
The out organisation first brought the USA into the debate by citing it as one of the Nations we would easily get a trading deal with
Which has been proven to be untrue by the USA's current President and backed up by the person likely to succeed him too.

I see nothing wrong at all in the president putting that info and fact out there in the slightest.

I only wish we would hear from the out organisation any major Nations that are prepared to go on the record as stating clearly they will quickly give really 'good' trading deals to the UK if it votes to leave the EU.
Rather than just hoping many will and with no back up even on that hope.

ha Australia got trade deals going within 10 months, Obamas blackmail threats are irrelevant scaremongering as he will be gone in 8 months anyway. trump thinks the uk should leave and will of course trade with us....Clinton is a corporate lackey but even shes not stupid enough to stop trading with 1 of Americas top 10 importer/exporters

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

ha Australia got trade deals going within 10 months, Obamas blackmail threats are irrelevant scaremongering as he will be gone in 8 months anyway. trump thinks the uk should leave and will of course trade with us....Clinton is a corporate lackey but even shes not stupid enough to stop trading with 1 of Americas top 10 importer/exporters

I wouldn't be quoting Trump on anything myself, he seems to quickly change his mind to suit the weather.
He also I feel really sure and would put a bet on it that he will not win the presidency no matter who he runs against,'if' he even gets the republican party's presidential nomination in the first place.

I will listen to Hilary Clinton any day of the week over Trump.

Whatever the deal is that the USA managed to do in 10 months is not the deal the UK may be seeking with the USA.
For as long as the USA sees any opening to a fuller deal with the EU, as the President said, concerning the UK if we leave the EU,there's no quick fixes and a deal with the USA could take a long time.
That is his Country and he has stated his word on public record that there will be no quick deal at all if we leave the EU too.

Whatever you think, he has set that out very clearly,it would appear that from what we are hearing too that Hilary Clinton endorsed that, she did not just say, the UK would be better in the EU but there will be a fairly rapid deal with them if they left.
It is clear then she and Obama are at one on this and the drive to get a major deal done with the EU at the cost of other Nations.

That may be unsavoury to take,it may even be a less than good act from the USA towards the UK, however it does mean the 'out' claim of a quick deal with the USA, is as things stand, has been blown right out of the water and is in fact extremely unlikely and will be for some time.

Yes, Obama will be gone in around 8 months time, I am really sure Trump or no republican will be the next President and that a Democrat President more likely than not Hilary Clinton will be there for the next 4 years at least after Obama goes.
So no quick deal at all with the USA,so where next of any real standing as to trading deals that are good and needed ones?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I wouldn't be quoting Trump on anything myself, he seems to quickly change his mind to suit the weather.
He also I feel really sure and would put a bet on it that he will not win the presidency no matter who he runs against,'if' he even gets the republican party's presidential nomination in the first place.

I will listen to Hilary Clinton any day of the week over Trump.

Whatever the deal is that the USA managed to do in 10 months is not the deal the UK may be seeking with the USA.
For as along as the USA sees any opening to a fuller deal with the EU, as the President said, concerning the UK if we leave the EU,there's no quick fixes and a deal with the USA could take a long time.
That is his Country and he has stated his word on public record that there will be no quick deal at all if we leave the EU too.

Whatever you think, he has set that out very clearly,it would appear that from what we are hearing too that Hilary Clinton endorsed that, she did not just say, the UK would be better in the EU but there will be a fairly rapid deal with them if they left.
It is clear then she and Obama are at one on this and the drive to get a major deal done with the EU at the cost of other Nations.

That may be unsavoury to take,it may even be a less than good act from the USA towards the UK, however it does mean the 'out' claim of a quick deal with the USA, is as things stand, has been blown right out of the water and is in fact extremely unlikely and will be for some time.

Yes, Obama will be gone in around 8 months time, I am really sure Trump or no republican will be the next President and that a Democrat President more likely than not Hilary Clinton will be there for the next 4 years at least after Obama goes.
So no quick deal at all with the USA,so where next of any real standing as to trading deals that are good and needed ones?

why woud you place so much trust in a corporate lackey and lying warmonger like Clinton?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

why woud you place so much trust in a corporate lackey and lying warmonger like Clinton?

I don't agree with your view as to how you see her, furthermore I will take heed of what she says because I firmly believe she will be the next president of the USA.
So I will listen to her and and anyone else on the World stage who says anything as to their view of or plans of dealings with the UK.