[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What makes them think they have the right to play god.

It bloody stinks and must be the most abhorrent news story ive seen for a while.

Are you not playing god by resuscitating? Are you not prolonging suffering by keeping patients conscious whose bodies have had enough?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Are you not playing god by resuscitating? Are you not prolonging suffering by keeping patients conscious whose bodies have had enough?

Well no, i dont think you are playing god by resuscitating, wouldn't god want the person to live as long as possible?

Who says these people are suffering, there are many drugs to make patients comfortable. What the hell these so called workers in the caring profession are thinking when they can dictate when people die.

It is beyond contempt considering people pay all their lives for a service only to get kicked in the teeth at the end by some stranger supposedly their to maintain life.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Well no, i dont think you are playing god by resuscitating, wouldn't god want the person to live as long as possible?

Who says these people are suffering, there are many drugs to make patients comfortable. What the hell these so called workers in the caring profession are thinking when they can dictate when people die.

It is beyond contempt considering people pay all their lives for a service only to get kicked in the teeth at the end by some stranger supposedly their to maintain life.

As said in the article there are markers that a body is entering the final stage of life, everything begins to shut down...how can that be reversed or prolonged without causing more suffering, what person in a caring profession wants that?Ethically it's the right thing to do, but getting that message across to relatives will be hard.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As said in the article there are markers that a body is entering the final stage of life, everything begins to shut down...how can that be reversed or prolonged without causing more suffering, what person in a caring profession wants that?Ethically it's the right thing to do, but getting that message across to relatives will be hard.

Whats hard about picking up the phone and saying to mr aand mrs smith that they think it would be best if mr smiths father wasnt resuscitated if something happened for god sake.. even thats not enough really, the relatives should be brought in amd questioned about it face to face..like tom said its the decent and humane thing to do.

Infact isnt this up to the relatives and not these overpaid dictators?

Im bloody sure if it was my relative i would want everything done so i could say my final farewell, and i would certainly want to know that the hospital were planning on doing eff all.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Who says these people are suffering, there are many drugs to make patients comfortable. What the hell these so called workers in the caring profession are thinking when they can dictate when people die.

...have you ever actually seen someone lay in a hospital bed, slowly dying over several weeks? Organs failing and liquifying inside them, stomachs distended, their face literally rotting off of their head while they still gasp in a few more rattling breaths... the few moments a day when they are awake, incoherently babbling in pain whilst seemingly experiencing terrifying and surreal hallucinations everywhere around them...?

It's not an image I'll ever forget, personally. Sometimes DNR is entirely right. In fact, a pillow over the face a week earlier would be more "right" than the reality of it. For many - doped-up, smiling people peacefully and comfortably saying goodbye to their loved-ones, it is not.

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think you're missing the point of the idiot doctors failing to tell the families.

Again though I do agree that families should be informed of the situation... it's not fair for people to leave things unsaid not knowing that it's their last chance.