[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Alf

You say it yourself, it's all over twitter. So you're coming at it from a media point of view, instead of a rational human point of view.

Sometimes sport gets heated, so what?

They certainly don't deserve the Headline of "Thugs" just because a London derby with everything on the line, got a little bit heated.

I'm not using it as a media point of view, i had my own opinions on it before i started reading twitter.

I'm fine with all the heavy tackles and challenges, that's part of the sport and that's how the game was played years ago so that side of the game is refreshing to see. But gouging someones eyes and intentionally stamping on them is not an excuse because the game got a little bit heated or that its a London derby.. fact is they bottled their chances of winning the league and they showed themselves up by becoming violent and thuggish. Whatever word you want to use to describe them.. bottom line is it was violence. They were intentionally trying to harm another human. I use the word thugs because it's not the first time they've done this, previous bans prove it. If it was a one off then fair enough, but it's not.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Drew.

I'm not using it as a media point of view, i had my own opinions on it before i started reading twitter.

I'm fine with all the heavy tackles and challenges, that's part of the sport and that's how the game was played years ago so that side of the game is refreshing to see. But gouging someones eyes and intentionally stamping on them is not an excuse because the game got a little bit heated or that its a London derby.. fact is they bottled their chances of winning the league and they showed themselves up by becoming violent and thuggish. Whatever word you want to use to describe them.. bottom line is it was violence. They were intentionally trying to harm another human. I use the word thugs because it's not the first time they've done this, previous bans prove it. If it was a one off then fair enough, but it's not.

Maybe Drew, If your team had have shown that aggression and fight and the want to bully teams, then maybe you wouldn't be shouting for your manager to be sacked.

Cantona inspired a dynasty at Old Trafford, and he used to beat up the fans.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Maybe Drew, If your team had have shown that aggression and fight and the want to bully teams, then maybe you wouldn't be shouting for your manager to be sacked.

Cantona inspired a dynasty at Old Trafford, and he used to beat up the fans.

Thats such a weak excuse and outlook on why we've failed this season. Leicester didn't get where they are now behaving like Spurs did tonight did they? Our failures on the field are down to a lack of talent in certain positions and a complete lack of man management skills to give the players the belief and confidence they need. If Arsene was going out there every game telling his players to start kicking out and punching players we'd be a lot worse off than we are with the bans we'd be given.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Drew.

Thats such a weak excuse and outlook on why we've failed this season. Leicester didn't get where they are now behaving like Spurs did tonight did they? Our failures on the field are down to a lack of talent in certain positions and a complete lack of man management skills to give the players the belief and confidence they need. If Arsene was going out there every game telling his players to start kicking out and punching players we'd be a lot worse off than we are with the bans we'd be given.

Every great team's had at least one aggressive bully boy, who would turn to kicking lumps out of the opposition to get what they want.

Did you ever see Roy Keane play?, or more to the point have you ever seen the mentality of Roy Keane? Alf Inge didn't see him, now that's someone who is prepared to break the opponents leg to get what he want's, and he had a trophy laden career.

And check out the story of the 1988 FA cup final, a team full of (as they we're labelled) "Thugs" triumphed over the Golden boys.

It's about winning, not about being nice.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Every great team's had at least one aggressive bully boy, who would turn to kicking lumps out of the opposition to get what they want.

Did you ever see Roy Keane play?, or more to the point have you ever seen the mentality of Roy Keane? Alf Inge didn't see him, now that's someone who is prepared to break the opponents leg to get what he want's, and he had a trophy laden career.

And check out the story of the 1988 FA cup final, a team full of (as they we're labelled) "Thugs" triumphed over the Golden boys.

It's about winning, not about being nice.

Of course.. we've had our own Paddy Vieira, Keown, Adams, the list goes on. These were ridiculously talented players that would put their body on the line to win games. I think you've changed the context of what i meant by the word thug though. I'm not saying players shouldn't show the grit like Keane/Vieira or whoever, I'm merely pointing out Spurs were violent and set out to cause intentional physical harm towards their opponents tonight. They felt defeated and took to violence instead, i don't know how anyone can condemn that