[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Your. Bacon. Suffers. Deal. With. It.

For the 900th time on this thread no one said otherwise

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

For the 900th time on this thread no one said otherwise

People are trying to make their own meat eating habits seem more moral / more cushy than others because their meat is slaughtered in "less cruel" ways... they're basically wrestling with their conscience and sense of morality and seeking justification in the idea that their meat is "humanely slaughtered" (as opposed to "inhumane methods").

It's nonsense. Animals during slaughter, and moreso on the WAY to slaughter, experience fear and pain. That latter part is important here. Their suffering is largely all before the stun or killing blow... which means it doesn't really MATTER how the five-to-ten-seconds that it actually takes them to die happens.

Basically all I'm saying is that people who are trying to make themselves feel better about their eating habits by comparing "their meat" to "others meat" as being harvested in more humane ways... need to cut it out. Because it isn't true. They are fooling themselves. If someone has a major issue with animals suffering at slaughter then they shouldn't eat meat full stop. They shouldn't fool themselves into believing that they eat the "OK, less cruel" stuff... ffs. Animals experience pain and fear when they are killed. That's a no-brainer. Some slaughterhouses are worse than others, though the differences are mostly negligible and have absolutely nothing to do with Halal, and are mainly to do with how the animals are transported and herded.

Worry about how the animals are treated in life... that actually makes some sense at least. It seems like people take more issue with a free-range goat being Halal slaughtered, than a caged chicken being "western slaughtered" because the goat took 3 seconds longer to die . Never mind that poor chicky was kept bleeding and insane in a cage for years before being "humanely killed"


Disclaimer: I ****ing love meat and I have very little interest in how many animals suffer to get it onto my plate. Mmmmmm...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

People are trying to make their own meat eating habits seem more moral / more cushy than others because their meat is slaughtered in "less cruel" ways... they're basically wrestling with their conscience and sense of morality and seeking justification in the idea that their meat is "humanely slaughtered" (as opposed to "inhumane methods").

It's nonsense. Animals during slaughter, and moreso on the WAY to slaughter, experience fear and pain. That latter part is important here. Their suffering is largely all before the stun or killing blow... which means it doesn't really MATTER how the five-to-ten-seconds that it actually takes them to die happens.

Basically all I'm saying is that people who are trying to make themselves feel better about their eating habits by comparing "their meat" to "others meat" as being harvested in more humane ways... need to cut it out. Because it isn't true. They are fooling themselves. If someone has a major issue with animals suffering at slaughter then they shouldn't eat meat full stop. They shouldn't fool themselves into believing that they eat the "OK, less cruel" stuff... ffs. Animals experience pain and fear when they are killed. That's a no-brainer. Some slaughterhouses are worse than others, though the differences are mostly negligible and have absolutely nothing to do with Halal, and are mainly to do with how the animals are transported and herded.

Worry about how the animals are treated in life... that actually makes some sense at least. It seems like people take more issue with a free-range goat being Halal slaughtered, than a caged chicken being "western slaughtered" because the goat took 3 seconds longer to die . Never mind that poor chicky was kept bleeding and insane in a cage for years before being "humanely killed"


Disclaimer: I ****ing love meat and I have very little interest in how many animals suffer to get it onto my plate. Mmmmmm...

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head.