[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Greg!

All I'm saying is that mixing BBUK with certain aspects of BBUS (which by its very nature is strategic) could be entertaining and make the show feel a bit fresh and new.
Your point is that it wouldn't work because people's game plans could be ruined. But that's irrelevant to me and the vast majority of BBUK viewers who are interested in being entertained, not ensuring that someone's strategy goes to plan every week.

Noooo you're confusing it again

I get that you think implementing parts of the US format into the UK one would be entertaining and I get that you don't care if someone's strategy is ruined because of that.

All I'm asking is why you said 'yes you can' to Tom saying you can't make BBUK a strategic game if you still keep the public vote. In your last post you just said you don't think you can, I just wanna know why you said 'yes you can' if that's not what you believe?

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Noooo you're confusing it again

I get that you think implementing parts of the US format into the UK one would be entertaining and I get that you don't care if someone's strategy is ruined because of that.

All I'm asking is why you said 'yes you can' to Tom saying you can't make BBUK a strategic game if you still keep the public vote. In your last post you just said you don't think you can, I just wanna know why you said 'yes you can' if that's not what you believe?

He said having a public vote in a strategy based game wouldn't work. If BBUK had elements of BBUS in it then it could be classed as strategy based. So I said 'yes it can' or whatever because of the reasons I have stated many many many times on this thread.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Greg!

He said having a public vote in a strategy based game wouldn't work. If BBUK had elements of BBUS in it then it could be classed as strategy based. So I said 'yes it can' or whatever because of the reasons I have stated many many many times on this thread.

It can't though, if the control over who's evicted is left to the public it remains a popularity contest. If you can spend an entire week playing comps and strategising only to not have any say on who actually leaves and for it to be left on a whim for the public to decide, you cannot possibly form any sort of strategy.

All it would be would just be a more rigid version of what we have now, with an HoH nominating people for personal reasons. That is not a strategic based game in any shape or form whatsoever. You may think it'd be fine and entertaining like that, but it still doesn't make it strategic which is what we're arguing about

[Greg!]

Ok but I think it would work

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Ok but I think it would work

Originally Posted by Greg!

so there

Not really a justifiable argument is it though so looks like I'm right

[Greg!]

No hun I just can't be bothered repeating the same arguments over and over again x

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Greg!

He said having a public vote in a strategy based game wouldn't work. If BBUK had elements of BBUS in it then it could be classed as strategy based. So I said 'yes it can' or whatever because of the reasons I have stated many many many times on this thread.

No, bringing in elements of BBUS to the BBUK format doesn't make it 'strategy based'.

[Jack_]

Then why have you dragged this out for three pages?

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Ok but I think it would work

You clearly can't justify your point! We've explained many times why it doesn't work.

[Jason.]

Let Gregor live!

[Daniel.]

After seeing two seasons of Big Brother Canada, I can safely say that the BBUK format is so much better. More crazy people, less nominations talk.

[TomC]

The HMs are nothing to do with the format really.

[Daniel.]

Well yes they are. They can't put people like Shahbaz, Science, Ahmed and Nikki (lol) in to BBUS because there too unhinged and it wouldn't work. BBUS need proper strategic sensible people, BBUK relies on the entertainment of the housemates.

[Samm]

No US version at all, people like Marc will always get the power and target innocent people not threats. It'll flop

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Well yes they are. They can't put people like Shahbaz, Science, Ahmed and Nikki (lol) in to BBUS because there too unhinged and it wouldn't work. BBUS need proper strategic sensible people, BBUK relies on the entertainment of the housemates.

Their messy gameplay would be TV gold!

[Daniel.]

But it wouldn't be game play, whatever. I don't want it that's all.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

But it wouldn't be game play, whatever. I don't want it that's all.

I know

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Then why have you dragged this out for three pages?

Because either you haven't been getting my point and I tried to explain it to you or you're just arguing with me for the sake of it. Either way there's no way we are going to convince eachother so I'm over it.

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by TomC

You clearly can't justify your point! We've explained many times why it doesn't work.

Welp I've justified my point approximately 463738 times.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Well yes they are. They can't put people like Shahbaz, Science, Ahmed and Nikki (lol) in to BBUS because there too unhinged and it wouldn't work. BBUS need proper strategic sensible people, BBUK relies on the entertainment of the housemates.

BBUS has had far more unhinged people than BBUK has ever had it does and can work, in fact if there's anything BBCan 4 has proven it's that personality led casting is far superior to the typecasting BBUS likes to do

If you cast crazy people like you do for BBUK, it actually makes the format far more entertaining because you get people targeting each other for personal reasons and being pissed off when they're nominated etc etc. The two go hand in hand with each other

Originally Posted by Greg!

Because either you haven't been getting my point and I tried to explain it to you or you're just arguing with me for the sake of it. Either way there's no way we are going to convince eachother so I'm over it.

It's the other way round you said 'yes you can' and 'I know you can't make it a truly strategic game with a public vote' but then contradicted yourself on several occasions

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

If you cast crazy people like you do for BBUK, it actually makes the format far more entertaining because you get people targeting each other for personal reasons and being pissed off when they're nominated etc etc. The two go hand in hand with each other

That's the whole reason why I suggested introducing some aspects of BBUS to BBUK, because it creates entertainment. But in my opinion there should still be a pubic vote.

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's the other way round you said 'yes you can' and 'I know you can't make it a truly strategic game with a public vote' but then contradicted yourself on several occasions

Whatever, you know fine well what I mean, you're really clutching at straws to find something to argue with me about.

[Denver]

People who want the American format should move to America then we will all be happy

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Greg!

That's the whole reason why I suggested introducing some aspects of BBUS to BBUK, because it creates entertainment. But in my opinion there should still be a pubic vote.

I know! I have never once said you haven't said this, nor do I disagree all I'm arguing is that if you keep the public vote it is not a strategic game . If you don't want it to be then that's fine, there's no discussion here, but you said it still would be and it wouldn't

Originally Posted by Greg!

Whatever, you know fine well what I mean, you're really clutching at straws to find something to argue with me about.

Not in the slightest I've said numerous times I get you don't care about strategy, I get you just want entertainment, I get that you just want parts of the US format implemented

What I don't get is you saying that keeping the public vote still makes it a strategic game, then saying 'I know you can't make it a truly strategic game with a public vote', then saying you can and so on and so forth, you're the one that has complicated this

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Adam.

People who want the American format should move to America then we will all be happy

Pay for my flights and then sure, happily

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Not in the slightest I've said numerous times I get you don't care about strategy, I get you just want entertainment, I get that you just want parts of the US format implemented

What I don't get is you saying that keeping the public vote still makes it a strategic game, then saying 'I know you can't make it a truly strategic game with a public vote', then saying you can and so on and so forth, you're the one that has complicated this

welp I'll make my position on this clear for you. although introducing BBUS elements would make it somewhat strategic i realise that it wouldn't be 100% strategic as the public could ruin someone's strategy or whatever. Such a small thing to be arguing about but there we go.