[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

unfortunately around the world the main issues seem to be religion related

Israel, the middle east in general, africa, Afghanistan, pakistan

you name the sh1tstorms and you have wee guys in outfits saying their god is on their side

Its only good old North Korea who seem to be bucking the trend

Hitler wasn't on a religious crusade, neither was Stalin. Two of the biggest mass-murderers of the last century. Like I said, it isn't just religious people who can be violent. People in general can be violent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

Hitler wasn't on a religious crusade, neither was Stalin. Two of the biggest mass-murderers of the last century. Like I said, it isn't just religious people who can be violent. People in general can be violent.

Its a fair point but i am not saying religion has any monopoly alls i am saying is that it is ripe for violence and suppression as essentially its based on made up stuff.

My god says you are bad, its not my fault. You yourself have said many times that your god gave Israel to Israel 5000 years ago,. The reality is none did, they made that up to excuse some marauding and murder.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its a fair point but i am not saying religion has any monopoly alls i am saying is that it is ripe for violence and suppression

As is the human race in all aspects about anything and everything.

So how is "banning" all religion at all going to change that? Humans will find other reasons to fight. As they have and still do.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

As is the human race in all aspects about anything and everything.

So how is "banning" all religion at all going to change that? Humans will find other reasons to fight. As they have and still do.

not ban just eradicate from schools and politics apart from teaching about as part of say history or modern studies. No preferential treatment in society.

We need to thoroughly reverse the prevailing notion that religious "faith" is intrinsically deserving of respect.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

not ban just eradicate from schools and politics apart from teaching about as part of say history or modern studies. No preferential treatment in society.

We need to thoroughly reverse the prevailing notion that religious "faith" is intrinsically deserving of respect.

Preferential treatment?

Religious people get nothing but mocked in this country.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Preferential treatment?

Religious people get nothing but mocked in this country.

I think that's the crux of it... if we were to find a way to ban extremism in religion... which I don't think we can do... or certain parts of a religion..or religion itself, then we will make the people who are extremists or even the modernists into martyrs for their faith, making them more valid unfortunately, and giving them a greater cause to rally behind.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Preferential treatment?

Religious people get nothing but mocked in this country.

they get prime time slots on the radio 2 breakfast show (audience 9 million) and radio 4 (slightly less but similar)

what other organisation do you know who gets this free advertising?

(this being one example)

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

As is the human race in all aspects about anything and everything.

So how is "banning" all religion at all going to change that? Humans will find other reasons to fight. As they have and still do.

This is very true