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She was unprofessional but she highlighted the fact that pretty much all the Brexit MPs wanted change but aren't prepared to be apart of the hard work that comes after. They're pretty much all passing the buck left right and center.

As for the race issue, not all Brexit voters are racist but all racists were Brexit voters. To deny that a racist element was prominent in the Brexit camp is to deny reality. Racism has become more prominent since Brexit won, it's an indisputable fact, to ignore it and deny it is to allow it to fester and grow.

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She was unprofessional but she highlighted the fact that pretty much all the Brexit MPs wanted change but aren't prepared to be apart of the hard work that comes after. They're pretty much all passing the buck left right and center.

As for the race issue, not all Brexit voters are racist but all racists were Brexit voters. To deny that a racist element was prominent in the Brexit camp is to deny reality. Racism has become more prominent since Brexit won, it's an indisputable fact, to ignore it and deny it is to allow it to fester and grow.
Firstly this interviewer should be sacked, she proved absolutely nothing, she simply abused her position bullied lied misrepresented and when he gave succinct detailed answered she shouted and laughed over him, if it was a male interviewer treating a woman like that hed have been sacked for sexism

there are racists and lunatics on all sides, people who want to assassinate right wingers and left wingers. deranged people. 17 million people voted mainly for sovereignty and against the EU and the corporate takeovers. The population rose 500,000 a year again that is unsustainable and it would continue unless we took control of our own affairs, these are perfectly logical arguments made by brexit and hannan throughout. her idiotic idea to show 4 brief snapshots of 4 people out of 17 million proved what? absolutely nothing
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Firstly this interviewer should be sacked, she proved absolutely nothing, she simply abused her position bullied lied misrepresented and when he gave succinct detailed answered she shouted and laughed over him, if it was a male interviewer treating a woman like that hed have been sacked for sexism

there are racists and lunatics on all sides, people who want to assassinate right wingers and left wingers. deranged people. 17 million people voted mainly for sovereignty and against the EU and the corporate takeovers. The population rose 500,000 a year again that is unsustainable and it would continue unless we took control of our own affairs, these are perfectly logical arguments made by brexit and hannan throughout. her idiotic idea to show 4 brief snapshots of 4 people out of 17 million proved what? absolutely nothing
Even if all 17 million were racists, the answer to this question should always be "so what"? Should the people who express these views have their voting rights stripped and their vote retroactively not count? To me, it seems obvious that this "racist" argument is just a way to not talk about the fact that Leave won in a democratic referendum fair and square. You can argue that the points the Leave camp made were deceptive (I disagree with this) but you can't argue that the Remain side had ample opportunity to respond through their many allies in the media.
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there are racists and lunatics on all sides, people who want to assassinate right wingers and left wingers. deranged people. 17 million people voted mainly for sovereignty and against the EU and the corporate takeovers. The population rose 500,000 a year again that is unsustainable and it would continue unless we took control of our own affairs, these are perfectly logical arguments made by brexit and hannan throughout. her idiotic idea to show 4 brief snapshots of 4 people out of 17 million proved what? absolutely nothing
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I don't think it's smart to detail what post-Brexit Britain would look like because you still have to negotiate with the EU. It's not prudent to show your cards just yet. I can't read minds but I can understand them being hazy on the details.

BTW, you are wrong that all racists are on the Leave side. What about the few bad Muslim Britons who want all whites to be conquered or homosexuality to be made illegal (52%)? Are they not racists or is it only possible for whites to be racists? I would imagine that these people would (mostly) be on the Remain side.
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Even if all 17 million were racists, the answer to this question should always be "so what"? Should the people who express these views have their voting rights stripped and their vote retroactively not count? To me, it seems obvious that this "racist" argument is just a way to not talk about the fact that Leave won in a democratic referendum fair and square. You can argue that the points the Leave camp made were deceptive (I disagree with this) but you can't argue that the Remain side had ample opportunity to respond through their many allies in the media.
And here's the reason why Racism is just going to get worse and worse because people will continue to deny it and bury their heads in the sand instead of confronting the issue.

To act like it isn't an issue is to encourage it's growth.
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And here's the reason why Racism is just going to get worse and worse because people will continue to deny it and bury their heads in the sand instead of confronting the issue.

To act like it isn't an issue is to encourage it's growth.
And like I say, the purpose behind this focus on racism is just a way to distract people from the fact that there was a democratic referendum and one side one fair and square.
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And like I say, the purpose behind this focus on racism is just a way to distract people from the fact that there was a democratic referendum and one side one fair and square.
That's just a silly way to deny what's happening here. This isn't about Remain losing, The referendum doesn't matter, we're living with the mistakes of Brexit supporters no matter what at this point.

What does matter is that there has been a noticeable increase in racism and you have to be wilfully ignorant to not notice it and it's rather suspicious the lengths some people are going to on this site to deny that.
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That's just a silly way to deny what's happening here. This isn't about Remain losing, The referendum doesn't matter, we're living with the mistakes of Brexit supporters no matter what at this point.

What does matter is that there has been a noticeable increase in racism and you have to be wilfully ignorant to not notice it and it's rather suspicious the lengths some people are going to on this site to deny that.
Some people who supported Leave don't like being linked with racism. George Galloway passionately supported Leave. Does that make him a racist or does it mean he links arms with racists?
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She was unprofessional but she highlighted the fact that pretty much all the Brexit MPs wanted change but aren't prepared to be apart of the hard work that comes after. They're pretty much all passing the buck left right and center.

As for the race issue, not all Brexit voters are racist but all racists were Brexit voters. To deny that a racist element was prominent in the Brexit camp is to deny reality. Racism has become more prominent since Brexit won, it's an indisputable fact, to ignore it and deny it is to allow it to fester and grow.

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She was unprofessional but she highlighted the fact that pretty much all the Brexit MPs wanted change but aren't prepared to be apart of the hard work that comes after. They're pretty much all passing the buck left right and center.

As for the race issue, not all Brexit voters are racist but all racists were Brexit voters. To deny that a racist element was prominent in the Brexit camp is to deny reality. Racism has become more prominent since Brexit won, it's an indisputable fact, to ignore it and deny it is to allow it to fester and grow.
I don't think it's smart to detail what post-Brexit Britain would look like because you still have to negotiate with the EU. It's not prudent to show your cards just yet. I can't read minds but I can understand them being hazy on the details.

BTW, you are wrong that all racists are on the Leave side. What about the few bad Muslim Britons who want all whites to be conquered or homosexuality to be made illegal (52%)? Are they not racists or is it only possible for whites to be racists? I would imagine that these people would (mostly) be on the Remain side.
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