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Maybe I see this differently because I am English by birth and lived in the West Midlands until I was 18,I am also of full Irish ancestry on my Mother's side and full Scottish ancestry on my Father's.
As I was born and raised in Scotland, no-one is more Scottish than me, but what we have from Nicola is a point of view born from her and her parties need for Scotland to be independent. She isn't capable of thinking of Scotland as a part of the UK, it always about Scotland as a separate entity.

The whole premise of the UK is that decisions are taken as a whole for the UK, not for its individual parts
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As I was born and raised in Scotland, no-one is more Scottish than me, but what we have from Nicola is a point of view born from her and her parties need for Scotland to be independent. She isn't capable of thinking of Scotland as a part of the UK, it always about Scotland as a separate entity.
Maybe so but this is made quite clear as being the intentions of the SNP and was in big, bold letters in all of their election campaign material. They were democratically elected at the last GE and Scottish Parliament elections to represent Scotland both in the country, and in Westminster, with voters perfectly aware of this. By considering Scotland as a separate entity - whether that is within the UK or not - She is therefore doing exactly what she was democratically elected to do.

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It is but when a system clearly isn't working particularly fairly, the automatic reaction shouldn't be to throw up one hands and say "oh well, it is what it is". Questioning the system is perfectly valid, AND perfectly democratic.

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