[_Tom_]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

As ever, TS is completely right.

It's funny that people are applauding that video when it's basically condemning them for choosing to leave.

Except he isn't condemning the voters - his very line is "if the voters vote the "wrong way" that's the politicians' fault and yet people are throwing insults at the voters" - he's condemning the politicians for not being engaging with their argument.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Except he isn't condemning the voters - his very line is "if the voters vote the "wrong way" that's the politicians' fault and yet people are throwing insults at the voters" - he's condemning the politicians for not being engaging with their argument.

And he also said 'the people that tipped the balance were the working classes because they were preyed upon by people who used misinformation and the politics of fear and they bought it', which is true.

So you agree the Vote Leave campaign engaged in the politics of fear? I too am baffled as to why you're all in support of this video

[user104658]

Originally Posted by _Tom_

Except he isn't condemning the voters - his very line is "if the voters vote the "wrong way" that's the politicians' fault and yet people are throwing insults at the voters" - he's condemning the politicians for not being engaging with their argument.

No he is condemning the politicians for not being engaging in general - for leaving the voting public feeling unheard and disenfranchised. Which left them vulnerable to disingenuous opportunists (Farage et al) who told them what they wanted to hear about "change" in order to fulfil their own goals, and then promptly took it all back.

At the heart of it though, he's essentially saying that "the masses" are easily duped. I've been saying that frequently since last summer on here but no one's applauded me fore it . In fact I'm frequently told that I don't give the dumb ****ers "enough credit".

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

No he is condemning the politicians for not being engaging in general - for leaving the voting public feeling unheard and disenfranchised. Which left them vulnerable to disingenuous opportunists (Farage et al) who told them what they wanted to hear about "change" in order to fulfil their own goals, and then promptly took it all back.

At the heart of it though, he's essentially saying that "the masses" are easily duped. I've been saying that frequently since last summer on here but no one's applauded me fore it . In fact I'm frequently told that I don't give the dumb ****ers "enough credit".

Don't worry Toy Soldier I've been agreeing with you all along on this, and many other people have too, just because we don't all post on here on these threads doesn't mean that there isn't people agreeing with you.

I am amazed at just how many people buy the **** that The Sun and The Daily Mail sell to people, I thought that most people read those Papers just to laugh at them, not actually buying what they sell.