[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jet

So does Andy when someone who has harassed him days earlier mocks him.
The 'he proposed', followed by the kiss, the ring - all done to send up Andy and Ed. Everyone else can be 'human' and do their thing, but Andy isn't allowed any frailties. Even people who come across as superior to some have feelings and they hurt as much as anyone else. Harassing him and making fun of him isn't justified in the least.

..(sorry Jet, I hope this doesn't appear blunt because it's honestly not meant to but just rushed for time with work etc..)...

..I think that it was as Hughie said and 'banter' but I do agree that it wasn't really appropriate/ill-timed/tactless etc and an air-time attention seeking thing as well...did they think about all of the prejudices against homosexuals and the wrongs done to them in their actions..?...well no, because we don't do we with actions like theirs...there is no thought is the point...(other than airtime..)...but inappropriate/ill-timed/tactless does not deserve what he laid at their door or tried to in talking about the most extremes of prejudices ..that was just pretty grim and cruel, I think...(and I also think that it was aimed intentionally in it's cruelty..)...I'm sure that he is very passionate about gay struggles, that's obviously genuine but I don't think that him bringing it into play when he did and in the way that he did was genuine at all tbh...and I also think that how he behaved was far more cruel, if we use that word than their behaviour, was is not justifying theirs either...their actions did not deserve what he said for me....

..also he is allowed 'frailties' of course...but the thing is Jet, is that he doesn't seem to allow them so much in others..(I think..)..the reason for his words were quite personal at feeling mocked...which is understandable yeah ..but he had only recently pointed out that other housemates were acting more with resentment rather than for 'the good of the group and shopping budget', with the 2nd visits from partners...which was also an understandable thing...and we're a harsh crowd, Jet.....if you set yourself up like that in judgement of others and their feelings being more 'self' and resentment, then we're going to be at your door baby when you do something similar yourself...I think he was annoyed/hurt etc for himself and feeling mocked which I totally understand that many people would be but maybe learn something from that Andy, when you judge others..?...

..I also didn't like how he closed Hughie down by making his statement but then saying...'can we leave it at that'..and denying Hughie his voice when Hughie was obviously upset ..obviously, Hughie never likes to leave it at that so still tried to talk but Andy just spoke over him...for me, again that was saying that what he said was quite intentional in gameplan, that he had no intention of discussing it because why not take that opportunity to talk with Hughie and Ryan about something that he felt so passionate about..I mean as a journalist, his bag is to relay information etc..open up discussions, not to close them down...I was really proud of Hughie actually, the way he went up to the pebble room and asked Andy to come inside because they needed to talk....I wasn't sure if he was going to shout..'oi you..'..but he didn't, he really showed a maturity there...so t'was a shame that Andy wasn't interested in that communication because communication is very much listening as well...not just 'laying your facts' and then walking away and 'leaving it at that..'....


...anyways, I think I said earlier..(I can't recall if I did..)...I don't think it was so much an OTT thing/reaction but more a very contrived one but a very cruel one to lay at the door because I'm not dismissing his performance to camera at the end....smiling and kissing his ring and talking his thoughts OUT LOUD to camera...something that is always designed for the viewer and for an audience and never genuine....




..you have a good day btw.....