[Jack_]

She has made him interesting, personally I think her endless 'sorry Jason sorry sorry but I'm only trying to be nice sorry sorry I won't say it again but you know I'm trying to be nice sorry sorry' is hilarious

Yes she's in the wrong but as I always say evict one side of a feud and you ruin both housemates, it's very silly

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Yes she's in the wrong but as I always say evict one side of a feud and you ruin both housemates, it's very silly

You see, the thing is with this is that a lot of feuds/rivalries that go on for a long time tend to become tiresome and dull to watch, like Helen/Ashleigh's series long one. If both Charlie and Jason stay then this is just going to drag so much and for me it got boring after a few days of Charlie moving into the main house. I prefer these feuds to be cut short (an exception on some of course) as it allows room for new ones and for house dynamics to change.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

You see, the thing is with this is that a lot of feuds/rivalries that go on for a long time tend to become tiresome and dull to watch, like Helen/Ashleigh's series long one. If both Charlie and Jason stay then this is just going to drag so much and for me it got boring after a few days of Charlie moving into the main house. I prefer these feuds to be cut short (an exception on some of course) as it allows room for new ones and for house dynamics to change.

But what's the point taking a gamble on other housemates coming to the fore and new feuds developing when there's already one right in front of you? Half of the time they never materialise anyway so it was pointlessly detrimental

The more Charlie pushes, the more Jason is going to come out of himself and erupt which let's be honest is the entire reason the producers put them in the house together anyway. Their storyline is causing discussions and making them both contribute, Jason was doing nothing before the houses merged

I just find all the side taking series after series silly. Sure, have opinions on who is and isn't in the wrong but once you want one of them evicted you're kind of killing the debate and ruining that housemate? It's so counterproductive

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But what's the point taking a gamble on other housemates coming to the fore and new feuds developing when there's already one right in front of you? Half of the time they never materialise anyway so it was pointlessly detrimental

The more Charlie pushes, the more Jason is going to come out of himself and erupt which let's be honest is the entire reason the producers put them in the house together anyway. Their storyline is causing discussions and making them both contribute, Jason was doing nothing before the houses merged

I just find all the side taking series after series silly. Sure, have opinions on who is and isn't in the wrong but once you want one of them evicted you're kind of killing the debate and ruining that housemate? It's so counterproductive

I do see your point, and I have felt the same way on some ocassions. Take Dexter vs Callum for example. But with this particular 'feud' I don't find it that entertaining anymore. I usually find them entertaining when both housemates involved give as good as they get but Jason vs Charlie doesn't have that.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

I do see your point, and I have felt the same way on some ocassions. Take Dexter vs Callum for example. But with this particular 'feud' I don't find it that entertaining anymore. I usually find them entertaining when both housemates involved give as good as they get but Jason vs Charlie doesn't have that.

Yeah that's fair enough, as I said of these nominees I'd actually prefer Jason to go and there are much better housemates with much better storylines, my point was more of a generalised one about the principle of evicting one side of a feud

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

She has made him interesting, personally I think her endless 'sorry Jason sorry sorry but I'm only trying to be nice sorry sorry I won't say it again but you know I'm trying to be nice sorry sorry' is hilarious

Yes she's in the wrong but as I always say evict one side of a feud and you ruin both housemates, it's very silly

I can't even find it funny or entertaining. I feel sorry for the both of them, Jasons having a miserable time and shes being deluded making things a hell of a lot worse for herself. They shouldn't be having to go through this on TV, it should be their own privacy.

Jason may not be the loud attention seeking HM a lot of people want to watch but he brings something different to the show for me, he's a nice guy mixed in with a bunch of fame *****s. He deserves to enjoy some time in there without her even if he fails to win

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

I can't even find it funny or entertaining. I feel sorry for the both of them, Jasons having a miserable time and shes being deluded making things a hell of a lot worse for herself. They shouldn't be having to go through this on TV, it should be their own privacy.

Jason may not be the loud attention seeking HM a lot of people want to watch but he brings something different to the show for me, he's a nice guy mixed in with a bunch of fame *****s. He deserves to enjoy some time in there without her even if he fails to win

Well of course they shouldn't but they are and if they had a problem with it one of them would've walked! They are both contributing and sparking discussions, that is a good thing and better than leaving one of them in the house to fade into the background, it's detrimental to the series. It's a bit strange me arguing this point here though seeing as I think Jason should go of these nominees and that I do think there's better housemates than the both of them, but my point was more of a generalised one about people taking sides in feuds like these

Please don't become another person who thinks I only support loud housemates because I'm so bored of having to disprove this. It has nothing to do with being loud or attention seeking, it's about contribution

He is a nice guy and I think his facial expressions are hilarious, but on his own he is a terrible housemate

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Well of course they shouldn't but they are and if they had a problem with it one of them would've walked! They are both contributing and sparking discussions, that is a good thing and better than leaving one of them in the house to fade into the background, it's detrimental to the series. It's a bit strange me arguing this point here though seeing as I think Jason should go of these nominees and that I do think there's better housemates than the both of them, but my point was more of a generalised one about people taking sides in feuds like these

Please don't become another person who thinks I only support loud housemates because I'm so bored of having to disprove this. It has nothing to do with being loud or attention seeking, it's about contribution

He is a nice guy and I think his facial expressions are hilarious, but on his own he is a terrible housemate

To me that doesn't make sense. Marco and Laura sparked discussions as well, as did Georgina and Jackson and i didn't enjoy watching either of those one bit. I guess you thought the series would die down once Marco left seeing as he was at the centre of every episode. He caused a lot of discussions but thats not what everyone wants to watch. I'd rather watch something i enjoy than to discuss about what i thinks wrong with it.

[Babayaro.]

A tad off topic but the Dexter vs Callum feud got me thinking...

How on earth did Callum get evicted over Dexter AND Hazel lmao. Random I know

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

A tad off topic but the Dexter vs Callum feud got me thinking...

How on earth did Callum get evicted over Dexter AND Hazel lmao. Random I know

Because he was one of the biggest characters up for the vote that also behaved like a psychopath.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Drew.

To me that doesn't make sense. Marco and Laura sparked discussions as well, as did Georgina and Jackson and i didn't enjoy watching either of those one bit. I guess you thought the series would die down once Marco left seeing as he was at the centre of every episode. He caused a lot of discussions but thats not what everyone wants to watch. I'd rather watch something i enjoy than to discuss about what i thinks wrong with it.

Shows like Big Brother thrive off of discussion good or bad. Discussion garners attention which in turn leads to a more successful series. It is much better to be talking about certain housemates and have opinions on them and the incidents they're inciting than to have no opinion at all, otherwise we wouldn't have a show.

Had the houses not merged that week I do think the series would've taken a hit after Marco's eviction, it was Natalie who the became the star and made that such a good week and then she was evicted - and in typical fashion the week that followed wasn't as good. This series is proof that if get the cast right and it has little duds, then you don't have to worry so much. Unfortunately we're not this lucky every year and that's when such evictions are catastrophic

Once you've evicted all of the housemates who are at the centre of the series and causing discussions on forums, social media and real life, there is nothing to talk about the show falls flat on its face. Happens time and time again and it's detrimental to the franchise

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Shows like Big Brother thrive off of discussion good or bad. Discussion garners attention which in turn leads to a more successful series. It is much better to be talking about certain housemates and have opinions on them and the incidents they're inciting than to have no opinion at all, otherwise we wouldn't have a show.

Had the houses not merged that week I do think the series would've taken a hit after Marco's eviction, it was Natalie who the became the star and made that such a good week and then she was evicted - and in typical fashion the week that followed wasn't as good. This series is proof that if get the cast right and it has little duds, then you don't have to worry so much. Unfortunately we're not this lucky every year and that's when such evictions are catastrophic

Once you've evicted all of the housemates who are at the centre of the series and causing discussions on forums, social media and real life, there is nothing to talk about the show falls flat on its face. Happens time and time again and it's detrimental to the franchise

I tried to say all of this to Marsh a week ago when I compared Marco and Natalie to Emma and Alex, but you put it across a lot better than I did.

But overall I agree with you, you need a few Housemates to make it to the end that are gonna offer talking points, even if they don't win.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Drew.

To me that doesn't make sense. Marco and Laura sparked discussions as well, as did Georgina and Jackson and i didn't enjoy watching either of those one bit. I guess you thought the series would die down once Marco left seeing as he was at the centre of every episode. He caused a lot of discussions but thats not what everyone wants to watch. I'd rather watch something i enjoy than to discuss about what i thinks wrong with it.

Marco's disgusting Showmance with Laura was more car crash fun than Charlie & Jason, and Jackgina.

Of course it shouldn't have lasted too long though as certain dynamics on BB can get very irritating if in there for too long.