[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

words on their own are never enough

What would you have them do? All any muslim civilians can do is denounce the actions of extremists. Do you expect them to arm themselves and fly to the Middle East to fight IS?

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What would you have them do? All any muslim civilians can do is denounce the actions of extremists. Do you expect them to arm themselves and fly to the Middle East to fight IS?

they can be active in the community stamping it out. It's in their interests to do so, and there has been scant sign of any real opposition. Words mean nothing, unless backed up by action. Its their religion, they need to own it.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they can be active in the community stamping it out. It's in their interests to do so, and there has been scant sign of any real opposition. Words mean nothing, unless backed up by action. Its their religion, they need to own it.

It's very easy to say that but what would you realistically do to stamp it out? 'words mean nothing' after all.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's very easy to say that but what would you realistically do to stamp it out? 'words mean nothing' after all.

you asked me what i would have them do and i told you ... The problem, ultimately cannot be resolved by those outside the religion, it must be resolved from within, and that means taking ownership of their own religion, defining boundaries clearly.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

you asked me what i would have them do and i told you ... The problem, ultimately cannot be resolved by those outside the religion, it must be resolved from within, and that means taking ownership of their own religion, defining boundaries clearly.

Nah. Religions are slippery buggers. Start defining boundaries and those who have other agendas will simply declare themselves reformists and create a new sect with separate rules. Has happened countless times throughout history...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they can be active in the community stamping it out. It's in their interests to do so, and there has been scant sign of any real opposition. Words mean nothing, unless backed up by action. Its their religion, they need to own it.

So if a group of white supremacist hardcore Christians was to rise up on a street in England, abusing everyone around them and attacking people, threatening lives... In your opinion, little Betty Smith from Number 3 should tackle them, because she goes to church every Sunday. After all its her religion... She needs to own it?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So if a group of white supremacist hardcore Christians was to rise up on a street in England, abusing everyone around them and attacking people, threatening lives... In your opinion, little Betty Smith from Number 3 should tackle them, because she goes to church every Sunday. After all its her religion... She needs to own it?

Don't be silly, they're white so their actions would automatically be separated from their religion and they wouldn't be called terrorists either, they'd be classed as misunderstood individuals that were let down by society.