[Raph]

Tbh I only watched the finale as I said so really don't know much so was just a quick observation! What other housemates do you think had sociopathic tendencies Jake?

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Raph

Tbh I only watched the finale as I said so really don't know much so was just a quick observation! What other housemates do you think had sociopathic tendencies Jake?

Caroline (BB13) comes to mind for me

[Dash Darington]

Originally Posted by Raph

Tbh I only watched the finale as I said so really don't know much so was just a quick observation! What other housemates do you think had sociopathic tendencies Jake?

Congrats on spotting Dan as a sociopath. Most don't want to believe it.

That Australian guy with the long curly hair, who was on BBCan, is a prime example. I remember him openly saying on his original season that he doesn't care about people unless he can use them. He was a superb manipulator, superficially charming, and conned the hell out of the audience.

The reason they don't screen them out is that they're reasonably benign, as long as their behavior is monitored. Sociopaths who are physically or sexually abused when they're young are some of the most dangerous people in the world, however.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Dash Darington

Congrats on spotting Dan as a sociopath. Most don't want to believe it.

That Australian guy with the long curly hair, who was on BBCan, is a prime example. I remember him openly saying on his original season that he doesn't care about people unless he can use them. He was a superb manipulator, superficially charming, and conned the hell out of the audience.

The reason they don't screen them out is that they're reasonably benign, as long as their behavior is monitored. Sociopaths who are physically or sexually abused when they're young are some of the most dangerous people in the world, however.

Yes from BBUSA Dan (BB10) and Paulie (BB18) come to mind.
From BBCAN, Tim (BBCAN4) and Cassandra (BBCAN4) definitely come to mind, definitely. I thought this throughout the season so i'm glad you saw it too!

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Raph

Yes from BBUSA Dan (BB10) and Paulie (BB18) come to mind.
From BBCAN, Tim (BBCAN4) and Cassandra (BBCAN4) definitely come to mind, definitely. I thought this throughout the season so i'm glad you saw it too!

I'd definitely disagree about Tim Dormer. I didn't see BBCAN4 all the way through but from watching his BBAU he didn't seem like a "sociopath" at all, particularly from his emotional response to a few of the evictions (and that clip from the web series he did with Ben where he got teary when Ben was talking about his personal demons). Loads of RTV contestants make claims about not caring about people etc in their VTs, the vast majority of it is bravado to get on the show.

I think he's someone who can get very into a game and separate strategic decisions from his personal feelings but definitely not a sociopath.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I'd definitely disagree about Tim Dormer. I didn't see BBCAN4 all the way through but from watching his BBAU he didn't seem like a "sociopath" at all, particularly from his emotional response to a few of the evictions (and that clip from the web series he did with Ben where he got teary when Ben was talking about his personal demons). Loads of RTV contestants make claims about not caring about people etc in their VTs, the vast majority of it is bravado to get on the show.

I think he's someone who can get very into a game and separate strategic decisions from his personal feelings but definitely not a sociopath.

But that's the point isn't it? Sociopaths can exert emotions just as well, if not better than a regular person it's just that it's all calculated and utilized to get a response. Plus, the fact that Tim saw little to no guilt in anything he did also adds to my thoughts

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Raph

But that's the point isn't it? Sociopaths can exert emotions just as well, if not better than a regular person it's just that it's all calculated and utilized to get a response. Plus, the fact that Tim saw little to no guilt in anything he did also adds to my thoughts

But with that thinking, we might as well theorize that everyone we've ever met is really a sociopath and everything that goes against that is all a calculated act. I like to take what I see at face value, especially since the thing with Ben I mentioned was about Ben suffering with depression (he even took an overdose) so I like to believe that his reaction was absolutely genuine and he cared about what his friend was going through rather than it being a manufactured response for personal benefit. I mean, what would he even have to gain in that particular moment from faking it?

And tbh him not feeling much guilt in game moves in an environment where they're all there to win doesn't signify him being a sociopath imo, it's a world away from the things a sociopathic person would be able to do guilt-free in the real world.