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Old 14-09-2016, 10:05 PM #1
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What do you get when you get into heaven?
We're just passing by on earth. Your spirit has eternal happiness. If you were to die tomorrow it doesn't end there. Faith down here in Lucifer's pit is to prepare you for that life.
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We're just passing by on earth. Your spirit has eternal happiness. If you were to die tomorrow it doesn't end there. Faith down here in Lucifer's pit is to prepare you for that life.
Any links to provide factual evidence to this statement?

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Any links to provide factual evidence to this statement?
Here is a passage about this not being his world
"do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone should love the world, the love of the Father is not in him, because all that is in the world, the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the vaunting of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. And the world is passing away, and its desire; but the one doing the will of God abides to the age."
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Here is a passage about this hot bein his world
"do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone should love the world, the love of the Father is not in him, because all that is in the world, the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the vaunting of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. And the world is passing away, and its desire; but the one doing the will of God abides to the age."
I will ask again... any Factual evidence?
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I will ask again... any Factual evidence?
What factual event are you looking for? You want me to yank someone out of heaven right now? The word here is faith once you open yourself up to that possibility you feel different about things. Once you've got that faith and are persistent with it, you know it doesn't end when your loved ones bury your corpse in the ground.
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What factual event are you looking for? You want me to yank someone out of heaven right now? The word here is faith once you open yourself up to that possibility you feel different about things. Once you've got that faith and are persistent with it, you know it doesn't end when your loved ones bury your corpse in the ground.
Why would any creator let people suffer and die. This god is the creator of everything and loves everyone so why would his love for everyone allow his followers to suffer from cancer or other ailments and simply just die? Also as the creator of everything why create the devil? Any decent creator would simply remove said ailments and evil people like the devil from this world in the blink of an eye. A real god would want everyone to live forever and death pain and suffering would never be an option.

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Why would any creator let people suffer and die. This god is the creator of everything and loves everyone so why would his love for everyone allow his followers to suffer from cancer or other ailments and simply just die? Also as the creator of everything why create the devil? Any decent creator would simply remove said ailments and evil people like the devil from this world in the blink of an eye. A real god would want everyone to live forever and death pain and suffering would never be an option.
Who says this supposed creator is "allowing" these things to happen? There could be other forces also at work. Hence the good/bad, light/shade nature of life.

Who said he created the devil, maybe they both came into existence the same way as each other.

Also, majority of the religions do believe in living forever. Just not on this earth.
And, personally, I couldn't think of anything worse than living forever on this rock. SHOW ME PARADISE!!!
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Why would any creator let people suffer and die. This god is the creator of everything and loves everyone so why would his love for everyone allow his followers to suffer from cancer or other ailments and simply just die? Also as the creator of everything why create the devil? Any decent creator would simply remove said ailments and evil people like the devil from this world in the blink of an eye. A real god would want everyone to live forever and death pain and suffering would never be an option.
Questions that everyone, even people of faith have asked, even Jesus asked the question when he was on the cross.. He said '' why have you deserted me?'' . But god knows the long term plan. Our idea of what a god should be like is just that, our idea. In our mind if there really is a god, no disease, no war, not etc but as he says this is not his world. If someone dies, maybe it was just their time.

''A real god would want everyone to live forever and death pain and suffering would never be an option'' this is what he wants for all of us but not down here. Lucifer was one of his angels then he developed jealousy etc. He was banished from heaven. We're basically Lucifer's little puppets down here and the words that God gave us through the bible are like the tools we should take advantage of to survive the best we can down here.
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She doesn't need to provide you with factual evidence for her own personal beliefs. They're hers, not yours.
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We're just passing by on earth. Your spirit has eternal happiness. If you were to die tomorrow it doesn't end there. Faith down here in Lucifer's pit is to prepare you for that life.
I think I'd rather take non existence than being some mindless automaton Wandering around a cloud with a permanent grin etched across my mug for eternity.
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I think I'd rather take non existence than being some mindless automaton Wandering around a cloud with a permanent grin etched across my mug for eternity.
I know it's a lot easier to just not believe and get on with everything you have to deal with down here, even people of faith know that and it's not an easy journey. That's why God doesn't force anyone it's your choice whether you believe it or not but when it's too late, he tried

Btw the other choice is not non existence, it's burning and you feel it.
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I often used to think that when in my teens, I think a lot of it has remained in me too.
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I often used to think that when in my teens, I think a lot of it has remained in me too.
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