[Jack_]

You don't have to explain yourself Jamie. I watched the video last night and it was amusing and actually non-partisan, but Russell Brand propagates anti-establishment politics and encourages people to seek out news that isn't spoon fed to people via the mass media, so of course he's going to be reviled

When someone tries to challenge the status quo, they are ridiculed by those who either don't want things to change or don't understand why they need to change

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You don't have to explain yourself Jamie. I watched the video last night and it was amusing and actually non-partisan, but Russell Brand propagates anti-establishment politics and encourages people to seek out news that isn't spoon fed to people via the mass media, so of course he's going to be reviled

When someone tries to challenge the status quo, they are ridiculed by those who either don't want things to change or don't understand why they need to change

So you are a Nigel Farage fan, then Jack?

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

So you are a Nigel Farage fan, then Jack?

Nope, but I understand why he (and Trump) are popular, and in actual fact a lot of the reasons anti-establishment figureheads and movements have become so popular are largely the same, it's just that the solutions they offer up differ depending on your political persuasion. It may seem strange at face value but people like Trump, Sanders, Farage and Corbyn have more in common than one might think, because they're addressing the same issues but with different answers

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Nope, but I understand why he (and Trump) are popular, and in actual fact a lot of the reasons anti-establishment figureheads and movements have become so popular are largely the same, it's just that the solutions they offer up differ depending on your political persuasion. It may seem strange at face value but people like Trump, Sanders, Farage and Corbyn have more in common than one might think, because they're addressing the same issues but with different answers

Very true.

[bots]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

So you are a Nigel Farage fan, then Jack?

i was going to say .... isn't that what Trump is doing now .... challenging the status quo

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i was going to say .... isn't that what Trump is doing now .... challenging the status quo

I wouldn't call rolling the country back on women's rights to vote or to health care in abortions, making sexism normalized....again, and encouraging segregation of society based on race challenging the status quo. I would call that the status quo of 50% of Americans that we see rear it's ugly head every election cycle.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Mokka

I wouldn't call rolling the country back on women's rights to vote or to health care in abortions, making sexism normalized....again, and encouraging segregation of society based on race challenging the status quo. I would call that the status quo of 50% of Americans that we see rear it's ugly head every election cycle.

i'm not a trump supporter, but he is challenging the establishment, and he has an absolute right to do that in a democracy, its just that the usa pays lip service to democracy, nothing more

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm not a trump supporter, but he is challenging the establishment, and he has an absolute right to do that in a democracy, its just that the usa pays lip service to democracy, nothing more

Did I say he didn't have the right to do it? Like I said, it happens every election cycle. Was it not the Tea Party the last two elections spouting the same illogical theories? It is a part of the democracy they have and want in America

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm not a trump supporter, but he is challenging the establishment, and he has an absolute right to do that in a democracy, its just that the usa pays lip service to democracy, nothing more

what is surprising is that the very people who decry him cannot seem to see past his personality and see what he actually represents - change

no wonder people like clinton get votes

Obama won on a "change" ticket and the young lapped it up

He brought no change, nothing but the status quo

you could not make it up

and still they are going on about a convo on a bus in 2005

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Jack_

You don't have to explain yourself Jamie. I watched the video last night and it was amusing and actually non-partisan, but Russell Brand propagates anti-establishment politics and encourages people to seek out news that isn't spoon fed to people via the mass media, so of course he's going to be reviled

When someone tries to challenge the status quo, they are ridiculed by those who either don't want things to change or don't understand why they need to change