[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I honestly am having little interest or enthusiasm left with any of it because it's going to happen which ever way that at a time of extreme frustration in the USA, at a time of extreme world frustration...it'll just be like a Brexit thing in that so many will still feel so disheartened an keep their frustrations, only probably increasing them..if Trump, a whole portion of Americans feeling flat and deflated and if Hilary, a huge portion of Americans feeling flat and deflated...it's always been a lose/lose, whoever the win because there never was a win for the USA or for the world...that was removed from the table when the last reasonable candidate left the room...(obviously Bernie..)...

Absolutely. The only thing that helps me sleep at night is knowing that we still be a democracy. I may not agree with the condition of things as it is now, but should Trump or Hillary make some unforgivable mistake or prove their opposition correct (which I feel will happen anyway)... perhaps it will end or at least mitigate our desire to look to extreme spectrums of thoughts for our agents of change... and instead focus on each other instead of looking for easy solutions (wildcard candidates)... and maybe move the needle more towards the middle on social issues that do need to be addressed... one would hope.

I voted in some Libertarians on some of my down ballot after reading their platform, with the thought they are not only financially responsible (more like to be accountable) but they also share gentler views on social discourse. I'm hoping that by supporting third parties, though they may not win in every case, perhaps they can somehow be a viable party.... although... some of the candidates, like from the Green party, frankly scare the crap out of me.

We need to get away from a two party system. The banter/vitriol is too much like watching spectators at an American Football game.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Maru

Absolutely. The only thing that helps me sleep at night is knowing that we still be a democracy. I may not agree with the condition of things as it is now, but should Trump or Hillary make some unforgivable mistake or prove their opposition correct (which I feel will happen anyway)... perhaps it will end or at least mitigate our desire to look to extreme spectrums of thoughts for our agents of change... and instead focus on each other instead of looking for easy solutions (wildcard candidates)... and maybe move the needle more towards the middle on social issues that do need to be addressed... one would hope.

I voted in some Libertarians on some of my down ballot after reading their platform, with the thought they are not only financially responsible (more like to be accountable) but they also share gentler views on social discourse. I'm hoping that by supporting third parties, though they may not win in every case, perhaps they can somehow be a viable party.... although... some of the candidates, like from the Green party, frankly scare the crap out of me.

We need to get away from a two party system. The banter/vitriol is too much like watching spectators at an American Football game.

...well I think that's the same for most countries, we're the same really..it's always just two parties who are serious contenders...any others are just really in to present a possible alternative/the possibility of taking the best of both in a dreamworld..but realistically I doubt the 'dream' will be in your or my lifetime if it ever did come about...or probably not our children's either...(the dream might turn into a shambles of a nightmare in reality anyway..)...