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If not kept in check I'd say it's at risk of corruption, any voting system can be rigged, gerrymandering, misinformation, propaganda, mistruths and media influence all add to this.
You think you have a choice? You don't.
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If not kept in check I'd say it's at risk of corruption, any voting system can be rigged, gerrymandering, misinformation, propaganda, mistruths and media influence all add to this.
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There is a choice - some choice or no choice.
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If not kept in check I'd say it's at risk of corruption, any voting system can be rigged, gerrymandering, misinformation, propaganda, mistruths and media influence all add to this.
You think you have a choice? You don't.
It's interesting that you mention the Media because I tend to notice that whoever the Media tends to give alot of attention too in any country conveniently ends up winning the given Election, and quite coincidently they're business minded people to such a point that the Media get richer and more corrupt whilst the average person is suffering to even have a roof over their head.

Democracy at it's purest form is a great idea, but people do often get manipulated into not voting for their best interests, it's why Donald Trump is President of America, and why we're got Thresa May in Office in this country which she seems to be even more incompetent than Trump who is at least going for people setting up businesses in foreign countries instead of hiring in their own country. But I'm sure the Media in this country will pretend that everything Thresa May does is great because they don't want people to have their own free will and realise that they're being played by the Tories.
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It's interesting that you mention the Media because I tend to notice that whoever the Media tends to give alot of attention too in any country conveniently ends up winning the given Election, and quite coincidently they're business minded people to such a point that the Media get richer and more corrupt whilst the average person is suffering to even have a roof over their head.

Democracy at it's purest form is a great idea, but people do often get manipulated into not voting for their best interests, it's why Donald Trump is President of America, and why we're got Thresa May in Office in this country which she seems to be even more incompetent than Trump who is at least going for people setting up businesses in foreign countries instead of hiring in their own country. But I'm sure the Media in this country will pretend that everything Thresa May does is great because they don't want people to have their own free will and realise that they're being played by the Tories.
I believe that the needs and wants of a handful of business leaders are put head and shoulders before the public and any technique that can be utilised to manipulate votes adopted.
Any attempt at freedom of thought or expression is slapped down as pc, sjw, or some other derisory term. We are all being played.
Brexit means brexit.....erm, but business owners can still have the eastern European agency workers for their cheap labour obv.
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I believe that the needs and wants of a handful of business leaders are put head and shoulders before the public and any technique that can be utilised to manipulate votes adopted.
Any attempt at freedom of thought or expression is slapped down as pc, sjw, or some other derisory term. We are all being played.
Brexit means brexit.....erm, but business owners can still have the eastern European agency workers for their cheap labour obv.
PC slaps down attempts at freedom of thought and expression which is why it is so unpopular. PC is controlling and attempts to tell others how to think. PC could be described as dictatorial.

PC uses derisory terms to attempt to intimidate others out of expressing free thought when not in keeping with PC thinking - so yes I agree we are certainly being played.

PC has become the monster it claims to abhor.

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PC slaps down attempts at freedom of thought and expression which is why it is so unpopular. PC is controlling and attempts to tell others how to think. PC could be described as dictatorial.

PC uses derisory terms to attempt to intimidate others out of expressing free thought when not in keeping with PC thinking - so yes I agree we are certainly being played.

PC has become the monster it claims to abhor.
I agree...Freedom of speech is the unbridled enemy that helped get Trump his presidency.

We are all sick of having to supress truths by policing our own words/language. Millions of us, in fact hundreds of millions of us have been stopped from expressing our dissatisfaction because of PC.

The opponents of political correctness always said they were crusaders against authoritarianism. In fact, anti-PC has paved the way for the populist authoritarianism now spreading everywhere. Trump is anti-political correctness gone mad.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...y-donald-trump
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I agree...Freedom of speech is the unbridled enemy that helped get Trump his presidency.

We are all sick of having to supress truths by policing our own words/language. Millions of us, in fact hundreds of millions of us have been stopped from expressing our dissatisfaction because of PC.

The opponents of political correctness always said they were crusaders against authoritarianism. In fact, anti-PC has paved the way for the populist authoritarianism now spreading everywhere. Trump is anti-political correctness gone mad.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...y-donald-trump
In essence without PC there would be no 'populist authoritarianism'. In other words PC made it's bed and it now has to lie in a bed of anti-PC. .

PC supporters, by behaving in a manner in common with those they deride, have done no favours for the minority groups they proport to defend as they have created a backlash against them due to the way they have chosen to go about it.

They have tried to play the hero and tried to take the moral high ground whilst adopting the type of behaviour they claim to abhor. They have no one to blame but themselves if it has all gone 't**s-up'.

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