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Old 28-01-2017, 09:41 PM #1
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The word 'bigot' may have a set definition but people apply that definition according to their own perception of what they think someone means or an agenda - it certainly doesn't make the use of the word in any given situation correct.

As for the mistreatment of any minority group - again that often comes down to perception/agenda. Wanting to protect the quality of life in their own country and protect British culture and identity is not 'mistreating' minority groups however much PC twists things, using derisive and blanket terms in an attempt to gag their freedom of speech.

Not wanting certain religions to have their own laws and indulge in behaviours that flout our equality laws is not mistreatment of minorities it is standing up for our own beliefs and way of life and not allowing those to be mistreated by minority groups who have no respect for them.
Out of interest what would an example of a bigoted comment be for you,
If it is so ambiguous and meanings differ based on perception?

Who ever said protecting British culture was mistreating minorities?... you're projecting here.

The example in your last comment is most strange, you appear to be referring to a specific group, is it Jewish?... They have their own courts and schools.
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Out of interest what would an example of a bigoted comment be for you,
If it is so ambiguous and meanings differ based on perception?

Who ever said protecting British culture was mistreating minorities?... you're projecting here.

The example in your last comment is most strange, you appear to be referring to a specific group, is it Jewish?... They have their own courts and schools.
Oh come on you're a regular on here. How about all the times that comment is thrown at anyone who says that don't support mass immigration - so that makes them a bigot does it. As I said perception and agendas.

I have no issues with Jewish culture as I don't see it being rammed down our throats or blatantly disrespecting our equality laws.
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Oh come on you're a regular on here. How about all the times that comment is thrown at anyone who says that don't support mass immigration - so that makes them a bigot does it. As I said perception and agendas.

I have no issues with Jewish culture as I don't see it being rammed down our throats or blatantly disrespecting our equality laws.

If a bigoted remark has been made then yes I've seen people being accused of bigotry, just because you don't accept the terms of the definition it doesn't make it so, your example of mass immigration is one issue... there are literally 100's of examples of remarks which have had 'PC' or 'SJW' pinned to them across many topics.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...others-driving
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If a bigoted remark has been made then yes I've seen people being accused of bigotry, just because you don't accept the terms of the definition it doesn't make it so, your example of mass immigration is one issue... there are literally 100's of examples of remarks which have had 'PC' or 'SJW' pinned to them across many topics.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...others-driving
That rabi is an idiot. First time I have heard of this, but I have heard of it a lot more in another religion.

Is's not just about whether I accept the definition or not it is also about whether a bigoted remark was made or whether the allegation was made based on ignorance, influence of personal opinion or agenda.

You imply that if someone makes an allegation then it must be so. There are so many variables to consider in determining why that person made that remark.

Btw the same also applies with people calling people PC etc - if you want to believe the person throwing allegations around is always right, then it works both ways.
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That rabi is an idiot. First time I have heard of this, but I have heard of it a lot more in another religion.

Is's not just about whether I accept the definition or not it is also about whether a bigoted remark was made or whether the allegation was made based on ignorance, influence of personal opinion or agenda.

You imply that if someone makes an allegation then it must be so. There are so many variables to consider in determining why that person made that remark.

Btw the same also applies with people calling people PC etc - if you want to believe the person throwing allegations around is always right, then it works both ways.
Based on ignorance? it's a little more black and white than that you can't be a little bit bigoted and it really isn't down to interpretation as such.
I don't imply anything, there is no real scenario here to compare.

If someone makes a comment that fills the dictionary definition of what a bigot is then where's the harm in calling it out?...
There is less scope for being wrong as the parimetres are more clearly defined.
For a blanket term such as 'PC' first you have to explain what ''PC' means to you, then apply it to the situation.
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Based on ignorance? it's a little more black and white than that you can't be a little bit bigoted and it really isn't down to interpretation as such.
I don't imply anything, there is no real scenario here to compare.

If someone makes a comment that fills the dictionary definition of what a bigot is then where's the harm in calling it out?...
There is less scope for being wrong as the parimetres are more clearly defined.
For a blanket term such as 'PC' first you have to explain what ''PC' means to you, then apply it to the situation.
I have been called a bigot by a particular person for saying I did not support mass immigration - twist it all you like that does not fill the dictionary definition. Assumptions were made by the accuser, as usual, as soon as they heard the word 'immigration'. As I said perception and agenda.
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I have been called a bigot by a particular person for saying I did not support mass immigration - twist it all you like that does not fill the dictionary definition. Assumptions were made by the accuser, as usual, as soon as they heard the word 'immigration'. As I said perception and agenda.
Without seeing the wording of your post it's impossible to say if it was or wasn't.
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